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Interview
with Lord Avebury, Vice-Chair of the UK Parliamentary Human Rights
Group
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3/12/2001
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This
interview was conducted immediately after the September attacks,
prior to the U.S. strikes on Afghanistan.
Question:
From your leading position as a human rights campaigner, how do
you view the political and economic impact of the terrorist
bombing in the U.S. on the Middle East?
Avebury: Apparently it was only too easy for the terrorists to get
enough training to be able to fly large airliners, and to get
through the rather casual security precautions at U.S. airports.
No doubt the authorities will be undertaking a root and branch
overhaul of their own security services, and their links with the
services of friendly countries in the Middle East which might be
able to shed some light on this operation, and the possibility
that further exercises of a similar magnitude could be in the
course of preparation. The Khobar Towers atrocity, and the bombing
of U.S. Embassies in Africa, may be seen as the precursor of the
World Trade Center and Pentagon operations, and it would be naïve
to assume that the terrorists have no further shots in their
locker.
For the moment, every single Government in the Middle East except
that of Iraq has condemned the atrocity. The Americans have to
consider their response very carefully, and only to strike against
proved terrorists and their protectors. A much wider retaliation
could have a baleful effect on public opinion in the region. There
are already people who actually approved the World Trade Center
atrocity, because they felt it revenged U.S. support of Israel's
continuing violations of Palestinian human rights, and the harm to
civilians caused by the policy of sanctions on Iraq. If, now, the
American response is not seen as measured and proportionate, the
result could be to alienate further sections of public opinion in
the region. It is too early to say whether the U.S. will become
more or less engaged in the Middle East as a result of this
disaster. Some policymakers may conclude that if the U.S. is less
involved, both in terms of physical presence and in trying to help
broker a settlement, the terrorists would have less motive for
attacking Americans. Others would argue that the existence of
groups with such a total disregard for human life, including their
own, makes it all the more imperative that political solutions
should be sought. I think everybody, and not just the Americans,
will try to understand the mindset of the terrorists, and whether
it is connected directly with the question of the Middle East. If
there are groups which are ideologically committed to the
destruction of the U.S., they constitute a different kind of enemy
from those who are angry about U.S. Middle East policy. They would
not be the sort of people you could sit down and argue with on a
rational basis, nor would they themselves have any reason to
discuss their grievances. The fact that no statement has been made
about their motives does seem to confirm that scenario.
Question: On the medium and long-term, do you see our troubled
region heading towards democratization?
Avebury: Yes, very definitely. Over the last century there has
been a steady advance towards self-government and political
freedoms everywhere in the world, and no region can remain
insulated from these trends. Empires have crumbled one by one;
autocrats have been toppled, and peoples are developing their own
brands of democracy based on their cultures and traditions. In the
Gulf, already we can see the development of self-rule, and the
underpinning of a thriving civil society which is the essential
foundation of a healthy democracy. Democracy is not merely about
voting once every few years; it means also the existence of
organizations representing all the various interests in a society
such as the trade unions, women's and young people's
organizations, single issue pressure groups and university
societies. I think the Gulf region still has a long way to go
before its states have a fully developed civil society, but they
are moving towards a legal framework that makes it possible for
all the se organizations to work freely together, feeding ideas
into the political system.
Question: What do you see as the priorities for the pro-democratic
Islamic movement at this stage?
Avebury: I have to answer this question in very general terms,
because it would be presumptuous of me to speak in any detail
about priorities for the pro-democratic Islamic movement, or for
any other movement in Bahrain. Up until recently, it seemed right
for all pro-democracy elements in Bahrain to come together in the
Committee for Popular Petition, asking for a strictly limited
return to the 1972 Constitution and the 1973 Assembly. Now that
more than that is on offer, and there is the prospect of an
elected Parliament with legislative powers, the pro-democratic
Islamic movement will no doubt consider whether it s expedient to
form a political party, to contest elections at local and national
level. If the Party is a conventional organization of members,
presumably it will elect its leader and officials; establish
committees to draft its programmes, and raise money so that it can
print and distribute literature when the election campaign begins.
It might wish to establish contact with sister parties in other
countries, and to send officials to observe how elections are
conducted abroad. It would look for a Party Headquarters, from
which it would organize branches in the villages, issue press
statements, train party members, and run campaigns. The
pro-democratic Islamic movement has also an important role in the
development of Islamic political theory. Several countries claim
to have synthesized democracy and Islam, with varying degrees of
success, but there is more work to be done on the theoretical
basis for Islamic democracy, which could be or importance not just
for Bahrain, but the whole Islamic world.
Source:
The International Forum for
Islamic Dialogue
Posted
with agreement.
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