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Thread: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 17, 2006 7:35 PM
by: Aladin
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Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 8, 2006 6:25 AM
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Today's news mentioned that at least 19 Palestinian civilians killed, including 7 children, in Israeli artillery shelling at Beit Hanoun. Till this moment, the town lost more than 60 of its inhabitants as a result of the Israeli massacre. Moreover, Palestinian President Abbas declared it a disaster area and slammed "international silence" in the face of incessant Israeli crimes.  
As humans, Muslims and pro justice people, how do you think we can help this area that witnesses heroic acts by its men and women? Think deeply in practical methods to help and support. Waiting for your useful ideas.
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we can enlist
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Nov 8, 2006 10:02 AM
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Bank accounts of charity organizations that can help them. As a start I'll look for Arab Physicians Union's
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Re: we can enlist
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Nov 8, 2006 10:30 PM
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how about some advise...quit messing with israel and abide by ANY peace accord that you have signed
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Re: we can enlist
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Nov 9, 2006 12:01 AM
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How about Israel abide by international law and stop provoking Palestinian resistance groups?
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Launch a petition
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Nov 9, 2006 1:59 AM
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I have launched an online petition today containing signatures and comments condemning the Israelis' massacres in Gaza. But I need your help. I want you to ask others in mailing lists, forums,..etc to sign the petition http://www.petitiononline.com/stpisrel/petition.html "To Whom it may concern officially: We all watch the atrocities committed by Israeli criminals in occupied Palestine, and especially in Beit Hanoun. Tens of children and women were killed and injured. The serial of killing, imprisonment, detention, demolishing, displacement, land scooping and grabbing land by force goes on for decades. How can you accept these crimes? We ask you to press on Israel to stop these massacres and crimes against humanity and to compensate the victims." Sign the Petition View Current Signatures
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 9, 2006 4:31 PM
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Why don't all Arab and Muslim lawyers work for the trial of Olmert and all the Israeli leaders for their war crimes? Arab and Muslim states must make a uniform decision and unite their diplomatic efforts to stop the Israeli agression. Also, it's the time for these states to co-operate in all fields (political, economic, etc.) so that they have no need to dependence on the Imperialism powers of the West. And the economic support to Palestine is needed.
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 9, 2006 5:59 PM
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My dear brother , Assalam-o-Alaikum
you asked how can we help? the answer is very simple to start with, but has afew steps to follow.
1-Believe in Allah
2-Believe in Quran
3-Look back in the History of Islam and see what would our beloved Prophet (P.B.U.H) have done in such a situation.
Signing petitions and asking despot to help his own victims is just as asking a hungry beast to help the piece of meat in front of him from being eaten.
As for as the Idea of mr. steeler is concerned I would say that it is necessary to understand why Israel is conducting such a tyranny over Palestine.
For that reason lets have a look at the religious book of Jews called Talmud.
In Talmud , Sanhedrin 77a it says"
"If one bound his neighbour and he died of starvation he is not liable to execution."
According to jewish encyclopedia "Only Israelities are men (Ezek xxxiv ,31) Gentiles they classed not as men but as barbarians"
not necessary to mention the verses encouraging sex with a 3 year and one day old girl or boy and also verses saying that it is okey to rape the wife , mother, daughter or sister of a gentile ( Gentiles are basically non-jewish people). "Talmud , Kethuboth 11b" , " Talmud, Kerithoth 11a" , "Talmud , Vebamoth 60b" and " Talmud , Sanhedrin 52b", respectively.
So it is easy to understand that since jewish people have changed their lovely religion of the great prophet Moses(P.B.U.H) and replaced it by Pharisaism( jewish encyclopedia , Pharisees page 666) they believe that they have the right to conduct this brutality and cruality on non-jewish people and so any request or petition of any kind wont melt down their hearts against the death of those small children.
Mr. Steelers further described that why muslims dont abide by the peace treaties and the truces , lets have a look at that one too!!!!!
" In 1967 following a war between israel and the countries of Syria , Jordan and Egypt Israel militarily occupied i-west bank ii- Gaza strip and East Jerusalem.
That year United nations security council Passed resolution 242 calling on israel to withdraw from the occupied territories. guess what????
ISRAEL HAS YET TO COMPLY!!!!
As of today more than 3 million palestinians live under illegal military occupation. IT IS THE LONGEST MILITARY OCCUPATION IN THE MODERN HISTORY!!
Mr. Steeler , I usually dont talk to people because I believe in todays world most of the people are either extremely stupid and **** or they are sleeping deeply. But if you still want to know my opinion that is
" MR. STEELER YOU DONT BREAK INTO SOMEONE'S HOUSE KILL THE FAMILY MEMBERS , OCCUPY THE ROOMS AND THEN ASK THEM TO SIGN A TREATY WITH YOU ACCEPTING YOU AS THEIR LORD AND MASTER OF THAT HOUSE"
" AND WHEN THE PEOPLE OF THAT HOUSE START TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND RESISTING YOUR OCCUPATION ,, YOU LABEL THEM AS TERRORISTS AND BLAME THEM OF ATTACKING ISRAEL. WHILE IT IS WELL KNOWN TO EVERY BODY THAT ISRAEL IS NOT DEFENDING ITS OWN LAND BUT IT IS DEFENDING THE LONGEST MILITARY OCCUPATION IN THE MODERN HISTORY."
I THINK LIKE REST OF THE PEOPLE YOU TOO DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 10, 2006 10:04 PM
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no ***, you cannot be occupied when you never owned the land in the first place. Israel has bent over backwards for decades trying to live in peace with the terroristic palestinians. Israel is defending its land and talk of occupation is just madness. I am not a jew, I am an American before you start you talk of torah and all meaningless things of that nature to me. I just know the feeling of being sick of muslim terrorists.
[Edited by: moderator on Nov 11, 2006 5:22 AM]
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 11, 2006 2:56 AM
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you cannot be occupied when you never owned the land in the first place Actually, Jews, Christians and Muslims have been living in that land togather, peacefully for around 2000 years. When this imposter 'Israel' was created, Arabs were kicked out of their homes. The Jews can have a homeland, but not by expelling Palestinians and not by ethnic cleansing. israel has bent over backwards for decades trying to live in peace Not really! All they had to do was to end the occupation but instead they choose violence and their military, break many international laws.
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 12, 2006 7:55 PM
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And that's the exact reason that i have mentioned in my post for not talking to people of your nature steelers ( please do not be offended) I dont say that I have a very complete knowldege of everything. May be you know better than i do about the ongoing situation and its historical background , but just by saying some contradicting words you cant win the ground. You should come up with the reasons and justify your opinion in the light of legitimate facts.
well i know that you will never do so as you have been brainwashed by the american media which is almost completely jewish owned , and just to let you know that you christians have a very contradictory past with jews as according to yourself (christians) jesus christ was crucified by them and that they have said so many bad things about jesus (p.b.u.h).
And just to let you know, your opinions do not change anything and my suggestion to you is to remove the wall of racism from your heart and look to the situation as a bare and naked eye of humanity and ask yourself if whatever is going on there is right or wrong, and please dont post your reply, the response should do good for your soul IF YOU STILL HAVE ANY conscience LEFT.
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 10, 2006 5:58 AM
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I'd like to express my condolence with the palestine people which are target of ongoing unjustness from the state of Israel.
It is a shame for the international community that the US vetoes every single attempt to condemn the violent action of one of their members: Israel.
I'm not playing down the violence of palestine Hamas and others.
But unequal to Hamas, Israel is a nation state which claims to be democratic, lawful, and peace oriented. However, this government fails again and again to reach the standards of a civilized country. It turns more and more into the blind and arrogant little kid of the unilateral hegemon US.
In this conflict, both parties miss a minimum ammount of hubleness and the true will to a peaceful future. All political actions of both parties are characterized by violence and revenge.
Who is going to lose? The people of Israel and Palestine.
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 13, 2006 9:49 AM
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Speaking as an Israeli I will tell you the truth and say that I was totally disgusted, appalled and saddened at the senseless carnage in Beit Hanoun. I cannot even imagine the horror of a family going to sleep and suddenly finding themselves in the rubble of their own house with the bodies of their loved ones lying next to them....I felt nothing but sadness at the sight of the children crying and ordinary people like you and me wailing and standing in the ruins of their houses. My heart broke for them. Just for background, Beit Hanoun has been a hideout for the Hamas units whose job it is to fire Katyusha rockets at our southern cities...AGAIN using civillians as shields (just as Hezbollah did in Qana). We fired at a target which was identified as a Katyusha launch location but, tragically and horribly, we missed and hit the innocent people who had nothing to do with Hamas or their fight against us. I will say again what I said following the Qana incident, I share the grief of my ordinary peace-loving Palestinian cousins who are totally not to blame and who are innocent victims of Hamas - a terrorist organization who has no problem using their own people as shields in their fight against us. May the sainted souls of the martyrs of Beit Hanoun rest in peace.
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 13, 2006 10:47 AM
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Hamis a terrorist orgizination ? My understanding is Hamis was elected by the Palestine people..fair and square. Any group that does not agree with Israel and the u.s. is labeled a terrorist group. I don't believe for one minute when Israel kills Palestinians it is just an accident..It is deliberate to intimidiate and punish Palestinians for voting Hamis and not giving Israel more land. Israel is a terrorist country.
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 13, 2006 10:53 AM
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Now this is a good thing for the Arab countries to do....Bravo.
Arab countries have agreed to lift the financial blockade on the Palestinians after the US vetoing of a draft United Nations resolution condemning the recent Israeli offensive in the Gaza Strip.
Amr Moussa, the Arab League secretary-general, said at a meeting of the organisation in Cairo on Sunday: "There will be no compliance with any restriction imposed ... The Arab banks have to transfer money [to the Palestinians].
"Our message is loud and clear to those who take unfriendly positions against Arabs."
The US and European-led imposition of economic sanctions, along with an Israeli refusal to release revenues it collects on the Palestinians behalf, have severely damaged the Palestinian economy and have led to protests by civil servants who have gone unpaid for months.
Arab banks have not transferred funds to the Hamas-run Palestinian Authority amid concerns of incurring US-led penalties.
'Terrorist organisation'
The US and European Union list Hamas as a terrorist organisation and take steps against those who transfer funds to such groups.
Kuwait's foreign minister said his country would send $30 million to the Palestinians, and Bahrain said the Arab countries would begin contacting international financial institutions to get the money transferred.
"There will no longer be an international siege," Sheikh Khalid bin Ahmed Al Khalifa, Bahrain's foreign minister, said.
Mohammed Awad, secretary-general of the Palestinian cabinet, said at least $52 million would be ready for immediate transfer and would go to paying salaries.
Awad said: "Most banks follow their governments. They must remove the blockade."
Sanctions
It was not immediately clear if Arab banks would immediately begin transactions on Monday after the decision or if sanctions would be imposed if they did.
"Our message is loud and clear to those who take unfriendly positions against Arabs."
Amr Moussa, secretary-general of the Arab League
Arab foreign ministers also called for a peace conference to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict "according to international resolutions and the principal of 'land for peace'."
The Arab League wants Hamas to endorse a 2002 initiative that calls for peace in exchange for land seized by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war - the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem.
Mark Regev, a spokesman for Israel's foreign ministry, said he was not aware of the conference proposal but he said Hamas could not be a party to talks with Israel unless it met the international community's stipulations.
"A multilateral conference doesn't make Hamas legitimate," Regev said. "What makes Hamas legitimate is accepting the international benchmarks."
Israeli offensive
The US, Europe and Israel demand that Hamas recognise Israel, renounce violence and abide by existing agreements between Israel and Palestinians.
The Arab League ministers also decided to ask the UN General Assembly to hold a special session to discuss the situation in the Palestinian territories.
The draft UN resolution would have condemned a recent Israeli offensive in Gaza that has killed more 50 people and also demanded that Israeli troops pull out of the territory.
The resolution, sponsored by the Gulf state of Qatar, also criticised the Israeli tank shelling of a home in Beit Hanoun on Wednesday in which seven children and four women were killed as they slept.
John Bolton, US ambassador to the UN, said the Arab-backed resolution was "biased against Israel and politically motivated".
The offensive was part of a larger military operation carried out by Israel in June after Palestinian fighters captured an Israeli soldier and killed two others in a cross-border raid.
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More than 870 signitures till now
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Nov 14, 2006 8:03 AM
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The online petition I have launched got more than 1000 signatures and comments condemning the Israelis' massacres in Gaza. kindly sign the petition and ask others in mailing lists, forums,..etc to sign. Sign the Petition View Current Signatures
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Re: Afflicted Beit Hanoun.. How to Help?
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Nov 17, 2006 7:35 PM
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At least we can ask the US people (not the US democratic or republican government which is a Zionist tool since 1913, according to Ezra Pound, Eustace Mullins, Benjamin Freedman…) to push the administration to stop sending US officers fighting with Khazars convert to Judaism (US Officers planned the Beit Hanoun Massacre).http://www.ziopedia.org/content/view/2293/0/ And by the way we Muslims and other monotheist, true Christians as example, should help the US people to get rid of the international bankers (controlled by the House of Rothschild,) who are making world war (I, II and now III) using American tax payers money,and inventing wacky theory as the end of time which serves their monetary interests, because they re just Lucifer followers (ain`t a joke, the last Kaiser Wilhem II, said that Lucifer sits at the table of the Rothschilds…..)
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