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Thread: From The Moderators to All Members


Permlink Replies: 23 - Last Post: Nov 5, 2009 6:03 AM by: FaceTheTruth
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From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 16, 2009 8:39 PM
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We had to put up with a lot of garbage messages and completely offensive language from certain members that we all know for quite sometime now. So, if those members do not have some respect for themselves first, and for Muslims and all the other people here, we suggest that they DO NOT come back to spread their hatred. They are not welcomed here anymore.

It’s OK and it’s normal to have different point of views, actually this is what keeps the discussion vivid. To have different point of views, even to refuse Islam is OK, you do not have to accept it, you have your religion and we have ours but it is totally unacceptable to come here 'only' to show disrespect to prophet Mohammad Peace Be Upon Him, to Islam and Muslims while this is a Muslim site and forum after all.

So, this is it, no more tolerance for those members anymore and from now on their entire posts will de deleted.

All our thanks and gratitude to our respectable members. We needed some respect here, were we asking too much?



hindii


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 17, 2009 6:52 AM   in response to: Moderators in response to: Moderators
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Hey Mods!

Assalamualaikum

To be very frank your warning post will not work if you are directly this to all members.You have to be bold enough to name a few of them to seriously make an impact,abusive posters are thick skinned.

They boast of being from civilised societies but sadly they don't know the meaning of being one.

In case you need any help in identifying them, I am at your service :)

cyberers

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 17, 2009 1:12 PM   in response to: hindii in response to: hindii
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In case you need any help in identifying them, I am at your service :)

Well said.   With all the different name's the abuser's use,  you will probably wear out a few keyboard's listing them all.

LOL.. Your post's will probably rival nosrul's for length.



AmGI


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 18, 2009 2:25 AM   in response to: Moderators in response to: Moderators
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So Moderators, let me see if I understand the NEW playbook right.

No talking negative about Muhammad. Got it, I can understand your point and you're right. He's your prophet, not mine and I should respect that.

No bad talking Islam? I'm cloudy on this since many issues related to Muslims (or those claiming to be Muslims) committing acts of aggression (terrorism) or that may be associated with resistance or insurgent groups (Taliban/al-Qaeda).

These groups USE ISLAM as their source of "inspiration" and "guidance".

How can you contridict one without associating the other? Doesn't seem possible.

Maybe you could clear that one up for me?

And Muslims? Really? seriously? So these... ummm, supporters of Muslim issues can disrespect the West, the United States, American's and individuals all they want, but if I post ANYTHING in retaliation and say MUSLIM, you will delete it?

 



Maryam95


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 19, 2009 4:04 PM   in response to: AmGI in response to: AmGI
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AmGI wrote:

So Moderators, let me see if I understand the NEW playbook right.

No talking negative about Muhammad. Got it, I can understand your point and you're right. He's your prophet, not mine and I should respect that.

No bad talking Islam? I'm cloudy on this since many issues related to Muslims (or those claiming to be Muslims) committing acts of aggression (terrorism) or that may be associated with resistance or insurgent groups (Taliban/al-Qaeda).

We do not prosecute a whole nation or a religion if some citizens or followers did something wrong.

PS Taliban for instance did not attack you; you came to their country and attacked them so you deserve what is happening to you. Taliban are not insurgents inside their own country, they are freedom fighters.  So, bottom line, get the hell out of our countries and we’ll manage with our brothers in Taliban and Al Qaeda !

These groups USE ISLAM as their source of "inspiration" and "guidance".

How can you contridict one without associating the other? Doesn't seem possible.

Maybe you could clear that one up for me?

Do not associate anything and leave us alone.

And Muslims? Really? seriously? So these... ummm, supporters of Muslim issues can disrespect the West, the United States, American's and individuals all they want, but if I post ANYTHING in retaliation and say MUSLIM, you will delete it?

 

This applies to all, haven’t you red how I criticize my govt. President and even the retard Sheik of Azhar the highest religious position here, but a regime puppet after all! 



AmGI


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 19, 2009 11:16 PM   in response to: Maryam95 in response to: Maryam95
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We do not prosecute a whole nation or a religion if some citizens or followers did something wrong.

PS Taliban for instance did not attack you; you came to their country and attacked them so you deserve what is happening to you. Taliban are not insurgents inside their own country, they are freedom fighters.  So, bottom line, get the hell out of our countries and we’ll manage with our brothers in Taliban and Al Qaeda !

Leave it to you to try and paint the Taliban as a benevolent organization.

Unfortunately Maryam, the world DID this one time (ignored militant zealot groups) and instead of entering Germany with a massive first strike and destroying the Nazi party and it's militant organization, we coward and negotiated with the devil and recieved 55 MILLION dead and a world at world.

Better to rid the world of such mind sets as the Taliban NOW than to allow it to FESTER and erupt on the world stage later.



BigB

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 19, 2009 1:16 PM   in response to: Moderators in response to: Moderators
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I'm all game for this as long as this also applies to the likes of SongYang (eventhough he hasn't been here for some time) and Nosrul.

It's pretty obvious that you ONLY target non-muslims with this post here.  Why is that?  Are muslims incapable of spreading blind hatred?

Nosrul is a good example that the answer to that question is "no".



yacketyyack

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 19, 2009 3:29 PM   in response to: BigB in response to: BigB
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Get over it BigB. AND AMGI. Muslim moderator's on IOL are FAR more tolerant than a non muslim forum would ever be. Don't like it ?,GO ELSEWHERE.  Quit whining.

Maryam95


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 19, 2009 4:06 PM   in response to: yacketyyack in response to: yacketyyack
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Right yacketyyack they can take it or leave it, we've had enough.. no, more than enough and I agree with the mods.

AmGI


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 19, 2009 11:20 PM   in response to: yacketyyack in response to: yacketyyack
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I've said on many occasions that the IOL moderator are more tolerant that opposite sites I've visited in the Christian forum.

That's not the point here in whole.

They allow individuals such as yourself to **** your trash talk at will. To me, you have that right since it simply shows to others sitting on the fence what a puppet a dhemmi really is in the overall workings of the strive for Islamic dominance.

I don't know WHY IOL let's you embarrass them as you do, but I imagine they beleive you to be something of an "example" of how a non-Muslim can be used as a propagandist tool.



yacketyyack

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 20, 2009 12:15 AM   in response to: AmGI in response to: AmGI
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Perhaps I should not even answer that post. But, I have no special pull here. Other than you answering my post's. Who else does? It is very seldom Muslim's even talk to me. Maybe I do embarass them, I don't know. If they don't want me here, I would go. If the mod's told me to leave and not come back I would go.

Maryam95


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 20, 2009 7:51 PM   in response to: yacketyyack in response to: yacketyyack
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Come on yacketyyack, you're the star of our forum, we all love you even AmGI and patriot.

yacketyyack

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 24, 2009 2:10 PM   in response to: Maryam95 in response to: Maryam95
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Come on yacketyyack, you're the star of our forum, we all love you.

thank you, thank you.



BigB

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 25, 2009 12:51 PM   in response to: yacketyyack in response to: yacketyyack
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Muslim moderator's on IOL are FAR more tolerant than a non muslim forum would ever be

Who bloody cares?

The post was about not allowing spreading of blind hatred anymore, but only seemed to be addressing non-muslims.  I think that's wrong.

Why are you defending Nosrul anyway?  he believes you are a dog who will burn for eternity in hell anyway, you realise that right?  He wouldn't feel anything if you were to be killed by anything.  In fact, he would probably feel proud if you were killed by a fellow radical muslim.

Talk about feeding the dog that will bite you someday...



yacketyyack

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 25, 2009 5:16 PM   in response to: BigB in response to: BigB
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You must be refering to my post to hindii.

cyberers
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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 17, 2009 1:12 PM   in response to: hindii in response to: hindii
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In case you need any help in identifying them, I am at your service :)

Well said.   With all the different name's the abuser's use,  you will probably wear out a few keyboard's listing them all.

LOL.. Your post's will probably rival nosrul's for length.

That was a joke. Nosrul don't need me to defend him, that's for sure. I think he has quite elegant post's actually.

Please don't wreck my dhimmi status on the board. I worked long and hard for that. :-)

Seriously though...don't take thing's so serious. Alway's remember one thing... I seen a utube interview with Robert Fisk. He retired, but maybe still dabble's in reporting. He reported the mid east new's for about 30 or 40 year's. Very famous man.. He said...all the time he was reporting..he can not recall even once when his story's made any difference in polotic's or changed any world event. I read his web site many time's..Actually I can't remember either anything that changed my view's or any particular story he wrote. It become's just word's on paper. Same here..on IOL.. a few day's what I say or you say..mean's nothing.. no one even remember's exactly what we said or even care's. 

Cheers

Yackety 



gpa


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 26, 2009 4:02 AM   in response to: yacketyyack in response to: yacketyyack
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Nosrul and elegant are not two words I would use together that's for sure.

Below are the forum rules, I have highlighted the particular rules that are pertinent to you, perhaps you missed it Cybers

 So perhaps before casting aspersions about others you should consider your own actions first.

  • Refrain from offending institutions, individuals, countries, nations, and religions.
  • Refrain from indulging in indecent topics or using indecent language and nicknames.
  • When replying to posts, stick to the topic being presented.
  • Refrain from posting ads.
  • Please stick to using English; any other language will be deleted if not translated between brackets.
  • Avoid pasting complete articles. One or two paragraphs are enough; the link can be added for reference.
  • The moderators have the right to modify titles of posts chosen for the Hot Topics column to make them more clear and attractive.
  • Users who continually violate the rules will be warned. If they persist, they will be banned for a minimum of 3 days, depending on the extent of the offense.
  • Anti-Islam links are not allowed.
  • Users are allowed to use one nickname only.


hindii


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 26, 2009 11:54 PM   in response to: yacketyyack in response to: yacketyyack
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a few day's what I say or you say..mean's nothing.. no one even remember's exactly what we said or even care's.

Wrong! Your opinion here does matter to most of us at a time when the West is at war with the Muslim world.It is consoling to know there are still many people like you human enough to have feelings and who stand for truth and justice.At the same time there are some who come here with an agenda, to spread lies and propaganda and rub salt on our wounds.

Peace can never be achieved without justice.Injustice is the main cause of all conflicts.

Maryam95


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 26, 2009 4:36 PM   in response to: BigB in response to: BigB
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The post was about not allowing spreading of blind hatred anymore, but only seemed to be addressing non-muslims.  I think that's wrong.

No, I did not understand that it was addressed to non-muslims only…

All our thanks and gratitude to our respectable members. We needed some respect here, were we asking too much?



BigB

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Nov 3, 2009 6:32 PM   in response to: Maryam95 in response to: Maryam95
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O'really?

So, if those members do not have some respect for themselves first, and for Muslims and all the other people here, we suggest that they DO NOT come back to spread their hatred

That underlined part IMPLIES that the members not showing any respect are NOT muslims.  Wich in turn, according to the rest of the sentence, IMPLIES that it's only non-muslims spreading hatred (wich is obviously a very hypocrite and arrogant thing to say).

The first rule about being a moderator is being NEUTRAL.



cyberers

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Nov 3, 2009 7:27 PM   in response to: BigB in response to: BigB
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The first rule about being a moderator is being NEUTRAL.

Why should they be neutral? It is a islam on line web site.



BigB

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Nov 4, 2009 2:12 AM   in response to: cyberers in response to: cyberers
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They should be neutral, because the first rule of a moderater is being neutral.

FaceTheTruth

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Nov 5, 2009 6:03 AM   in response to: BigB in response to: BigB
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Greetings and Peace be with you all.

I realize the debates on IOL can become heated at times, and our dear moderators overwhelmed at what they deem to be a violation of the forum rules
or not.
But if members would simply hold to a few simple principals, I'm sure you would see more stimulating debate.

1. It is never ok to berate or belittle anyones opinion.
2. I won't insult your intelligence if you don't insult mine.
3. Opinions are just that, opinions. Don't take any opinion as a personal attack against you as long as it isn't an attack to begin with. I think
And if you don't we all can tell the difference. If anyone does attack anyone, be the better person and ignore it.
4. Understand that positions of one individual can rarely be changed threw insults and lies. State the facts of your case and present evidence of your
position with reasonable articals from reliable sources. There are many opinionated sites that support one side or the other. Look for the most reasonable
to support your position and others may see your views more favorable.
5. If you're here with an "agenda", you might want to go some place else.



SZA


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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Oct 20, 2009 12:36 AM   in response to: Moderators in response to: Moderators
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When we are too lenient, they will step on our head, they will take advantage of us.

Yes I agree wholeheartedly that Moderators should take firm action to those who are disrespectful of Islam and Prophet Muhammad.

After all Prophet Muhammad is not only sent By Allah Our Creator for Muslims, but he is for the whole of mankind and the universe.

Some of them **** lies upon lies on Islam due to their choice of being ignorant. And Ignorant people are not worth our patience. It is not as if they are here for a day or two, a week or two, but months and even years. Still being ignorant is their choice. These people should be purged from IOL for good. There is no benefit in keeping them here.

cyberers

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Re: From The Moderators to All Members
Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:44 PM   in response to: Moderators in response to: Moderators
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Great job moderetor's... Turf the rif raf out.


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