First of all, this video is more than a year old.

Next, the military had nothing to do with it and confiscated the Bibles immediately.

The soldier in question was charged under General Order 1 which forbids getting involved in religious actions of any form with the local population.

I fall under GO 1 here in Kuwait.

If any Bible were given out it was agaist regulation and you can't control every single soldier.

The u.s. have a thriving evangelical christian presence in the u.s. army in Pakistan and Afghan. That particular religion is forever trying to convert someone to that religion. Not just muslims but just about everyone else that are of a diffrent religion or faith. Bible thumpers I call them.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/05/200953201315854832.html

Bagram has a thriving evangelical
Christian community

This is exactly the kind of hype one US General said al-Jazeera was trying to create when this unworthy news story broke a few days ago.

Just like most military's, they have a religious component within them.

In the US military, multiple faiths are offered services by their respective representative TO INCLUED Islam.

But it is against standing orders to actively ingage in any form of religious actions within the community.

Soldiers cannot "recruit" or "spread" any form of documentation supporting any form of religion.

Does that mean their aren't some soldiers who see it as their Christian or Jewish or Muslim duty to spread the word??

Of course not.

There are those individuals who will attempt it regardless.

The point being, the US military does not allow it.

Your photos are simply photos of soldiers attending services on base. SO WHAT?

It's our base and if it was a Muslim army and a Muslim base, then we'd be looking at Muslim soldiers praying.

Stop trying to stir up a non issue.

Robert Farley at The American Prospect says, "The bibles were apparently paid for by a private organization. [snip]  It goes without saying that attempting to spread Christianity in Afghanistan is highly unlikely to win the favor of the local population. It is, however, likely that "gifting" bibles will play into Taliban propaganda, and may well lead to the torture or execution of recipients."  Farley is probably correct about the Taliban.

The US military are not supposed to proselytize, but they are allowed to give gifts to the locals.  It is not clear if any of the local-language bibles, seen in the video taken over a year ago, were ever given to the locals.

 Questioned about the footage, US colonel Greg Julian told Al Jazeera: "Most of this is taken out of context ... this is irresponsible and inappropriate journalism.  "This footage was taken a year ago ... the bibles were taken into custody and not distributed."  The footage, shot about a year ago by Brian Hughes, a documentary maker and former member of the US military.   (Aljazeera)

The US army isn't the "army of God" as most militant Muslim groups would claim to be.

In fact, I bet you'd be hard pressed to get 10% of all active duty members to even attend Church on a weekly basis.

I've seen so many Marines that NEVER attended religious services, all of a sudden "FIND GOD" once they enter the combat zone.

I think you're WAY OFF if you think the US military gives two hoots about spreading the word of God to anyone anywhere.

Ok, Hindii, and I posted that proof. A 1-year old video that al-Jazsmeara dug up to try and create yet more sensationalism in the battle between the Infidel and Taliban. (Isn't it strange that the term Infidel is a Christian term for "none believer" yet it's used OH so many times by those thinking themselves Muslims. The Muslim term of course is kefir, which is more closely associated with "to cover, or to cover up", but is the description a real Muslim would use to identify a non-believer of Islam).

Anyway, I wonder from the point.

A Christian organization tried to smuggle in some Bibles using a simpleton private to hand them out while he was on patrol.

Not the "big" conversion conspiracy you were hoping for I'm sure, but keep on posting and twisting the facts and I'm sure you'll get at least one or two numb minded conspirators to cheer right along with you.

What I find more interesting is the fact that you or any TRUE believer of the "faith" would worry about such a trivial thing?

I mean, if these people ARE faithful, they'd simply take these Bibles and use them a toilet paper wouldn't they??

Seems to me Islam created these rules to protect itself from something?

Maybe from something they're afraid they can't control or beat out of you??

So you do agree this is a battle between the 'Infidels and Taliban' and that is exactly what this war was all about.And all along we were made to believe that American forces were there in Afghanistan and Iraq to bring Democracy to the desperate people and give their women freedom. No, of course I don’t believe that. That’s what you and those like you want to believe so it clears you conscience and makes you feel good that you can once again latch on to that “victim mentality” that seems to help Muslims deal with things when they know they’re wrong.

I believe Afghanistan was first and foremost a retaliatory strike against the source of terrorism that allowed the attacks of 9/11 to occur. I believe that because Bin Laden and the Taliban admitted as much.

                   I believe that when George Bush and company saw how easily the Taliban and Muslim militants were crumbling the religious right that surrounded the President convenience the president to “take this opportunity in history” and end this once and for all. They convenience to make Afghanistan a country that would no longer support this radical Muslim ideology and bring it into the 21^st century. I believe they threw out the logic of historical evidence that clearly told them it would be impossible to do that. I believe instead of aiming for instituting a government that would follow a moderate form of Islamic belief they got the idea that they could institute some form (a Pakistani or Indonesian model) of democratic Islam. A simple look at the realities should have told them otherwise, but they ignored it and took the long shot. Whether or not that long shot will pay off is still up for grabs.

I think Bush claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Ladens stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East didn't he? I think Bush believed God guided him. No more no less than leaders from Islamic nations make that claim. That’s why our founding fathers expressed concern about allowing Church and State to intermingle. This is what happens when you think you’re “divinely guided”.

From the outset he has couched the 'global war on terror' in quasi religious terms as a struggle between good and evil. Al Qaida was routinely described as evildoers. For Bush the invasion of Iraq has always been part of the struggle against terrorism and he appears to see himself as the executor of the divine will. I think I explained Afghanistan and my belief. As for Iraq, I still contend that evidence at the time drew Bush into making a bad call. Were those who were feeding him the evidence doing so lying? I’m sure they S T R E T C H E D the truth enough to convince Bush action in Iraq needed to be taken. He simply took the wrong advice. Had Bush listened to General John Shalikashvili, the retired chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who told Congress that the United States should go to war in Iraq only as a last resort,"  instead of Donald Rumsfeld, we’d already be out of Iraq. If you recall, General Shalikashvili said:

"'We must continue to persuade the other members of the Security Council of the correctness of our position, and we must not be too quick to take no for an answer,'"

Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld removed General Shalikashvili after several disagreements on how best to handle the Iraqi situation. Shalikashvili told them that no less than 750 thousand US and coalition forces would be needed to win in Iraq.

They didn’t listen and today is the result of taking military advice from civilians.

A Christian organization tried to smuggle in some Bibles using a simpleton private to hand them out while he was on patrol.

It is not that simple as you seem to believe. First of all Al Jazeera obtained this video from an independent documentary director who happens to be an ex military men. Many US activist have called for a probe into military evangelism which has been going on for 3 years or more. US watchdogs also claim that army has allowed evangelism in Iraq and Afghanistan. Since I’m a retired Marine of more than 20-years and I’ve done a tour of duty in Iraq, I know for a fact that the US military DOES NOT promote or support evangelizing. This does not mean some troops with strong Christian backgrounds haven’t taken it upon themselves to try. As I stated and proved, those that were caught were stopped and punished. You can’t take an entire force of more than 500 thousand service members who have served in Iraq and blame them for the actions of a few. Just as you can’t take the actions of a few radical elements in Islam that want to spread Islam around the world and blame all Muslims for that mentality.

So you see even though the US says the bibles were confiscated, Greg Julian spokesperson for the US military in Afghanistan says he was not aware of this until Al Jazeera reported it so how could they have been confiscated when the soldiers are not yet brought to book or identified. Clause 3, Article VI of the Constitution forbids a religion test for any position in the federal government, and the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights says Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion. The US military is a big institution and no doubt some slip through the system. Also, many units in Iraq are National Guard units that are “less controlled” by the standard military hierarchy. Units from the Bible belt of America are far more likely to try and bring Christianity to Afghanistan or Iraq than those in the main stream armed forces simply because they are grouped together as units from the same state, unlike the regular military forces drawn from all parts of the US. So any fundamentalist Christian ideology (what we call the Bible Thumper mentality) would be far more noticeable in these National Guard units than the rest of the military.
It has also been reported that US marines handed out money to Iraqi promoting Christianity. I’d love to see a documented case on that. Until I do, I don’t believe it.

Not the "big" conversion conspiracy you were hoping for I'm sure, but keep on posting and twisting the facts and I'm sure you'll get at least one or two numb minded conspirators to cheer right along with you.
Here is another proof of Army Evangelism.

Some US military personnel appears to have launched an initiative to covert thousands of Iraqi citizens to Christianity by distributing Bibles and other fundamentalist Christian literature translated into Arabic to Muslims. And those individuals have been caught, their materials confiscated and they were punished.

"Our division is also getting ready to head toward Afghanistan, so there will be copies heading out with the soldiers," Llanos said. “We need to pray for protection for our soldiers as they patrol and pray that God would continue to open doors. The soldiers are being placed in strategic places with a purpose. They're continuing to spread the Word.” I have no doubt that many soldiers and Marines carry the Bible with them into combat. Why is that a problem? But I also know that if a NCO catches a troop preaching, it’s his duty to take immediate action to stop it. By the way, we see Muslims doing the same thing in video after video, holding up the Quran in one hand and swinging an AK-47 over in the other hand. Why do you see it as being any different? As I said before, Islam has nothing to fear if its people really believe. They’d simply ignore any attempts to convert them and go on with their lives. There must be a lot of fear in Islam to think a very small group of Christian soldiers might convert a few Afghani peasants.

Members of the U.S. military first started actively proselytizing Iraqi Muslims soon after the U.S. invaded Iraq in March 2003. Members. A small group. Not the entire US army.

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3318.shtml

What I find more interesting is the fact that you or any TRUE believer of the "faith" would worry about such a trivial thing?

What I find more interesting is the fact that instead of concentrating on their actual mission of bringing peace and stability they are out there Proselytizing. That’s the fear speaking. The US military has many different religions and representative for those sects. It wouldn’t affect the mission of the military to hand out some Bibles. But since it’s against our constitution to do so, it is illegal and should be stopped. But it’s not widespread and it’s difficult to track 40,000 troops actions on a day to day bases. As I said, if Muslims don’t want to listen they don’t have too. At least no one is telling them “Convert or die”.  

If their mission is complete they should choose either to leave the occupied lands respectfully or be kick out. To be honest I don’t really know if the US knows what “mission accomplished” is any more. I agree with you. The US destroyed the Taliban and should have killed Bin Laden. We should have never occupied Afghanistan and tried to help them. Leave them to their own devises and if they raise their radical heads again, go in and slap them down again.

I don't believe it threatens Islam or a true Believer but it surely does mislead the poor and illiterate people. So not to get into a theological debate, but what’s the difference? One could easily say Islam has done the very same thing except Islam has kept other competing faiths OUT of their territory with threats of apostate and death if they should ever DARE to convert to another faith. Imagine if the rest of the world did the same thing? Image an America that killed anyone who dared worship anything other than Christian beliefs.

I shutter and fear a world like that.

I mean, if these people ARE faithful, they'd simply take these Bibles and use them a toilet paper wouldn't they??
No if these people are 'faithful' or true believers they would never use Bibles as toilet paper Islam advocates respect for all religions and religious books. OK, maybe I exaggerated that point, but my point being, many Muslims see today’s Bible as unholy and a fraud, so I don’t think most Muslims are a reverent towards the Bible as you think. But my point is, they take the Bible and later discard it. They could take it to their iman or give it to a Christian family. They don’t have to read it if they don’t want too.

Well first US forces are on foreign soil for a different mission and not evangelize. I agree. And US forces are NOT evangelizing, only a VERY FEW cases of individual troops attempting to distribute Bibles has been revealed, but like most cases involving Muslims, they latch on to one little thing and try to BLOW IT out of proportion. Second every country has different rules and regulations and one has to obey them even if its not appealing. I agree. Thankfully my nation believes in the right of the individual to freely believe and worship as they want. And it believes that religion is something that should be freely allowed to operate as long as it doesn't promote hatred and chaos. Islam believes that it is the ONLY religion that should flourish and should do so at any cost. By restricting the freedom of religion they control the opportunities of the people to see another view point. So Islam is the only view point their allowed to entertain. Our way or the highway. Thirdly Muslim countries as I stated before have never boasted of being secular like the West so your argument holds no water when you say that Islam does not allow other faiths to propagate on their lands. Islam doesn't have to boast of its secular identity when it doesn't allow any other form of identity to develop. Muslim nations aren't called MUSLIM NATIONS for nothing. Stop boasting about freedom of religion and stop killing in the name of Democracy then you can try reforming the Muslim world. Boasting about freedom of religion has nothing to do with a democratic viewpoint of the world. Sure I believe that the world would be a far better place if democracy ruled. I believe the government should be beholding to the people, not the other way around. But I don't believe democracy should be forced upon anyone or any nation. I believe people have to evolve and demand democracy. They've got to want it. If they don't, they don't deserve it.
I've told you before Hindii that I don't support the current reasoning for our continued involvement in Afghanistan or Iraq. I've stated that we need to tie a knot in the end of the rope and leave. We can't do that over night, but I think we could do it a bit faster than we are. Our continued involvement in theses regions is doing no one any good since the populations are apathetic at best. Again, if they don't WANT to be free, then let them be ruled.

I agree that Muslim Militants group fight in the name of God, and they do not lie about it..

Where as the army in question always has hidden agenda...

They're called "religious fanatics".

And Muslims don't have the market cornered in that respect.

Remember the Crusades?

But even THEY have an agenda.

 On the other hand, there is the power of Reason makes a Guantanamo guard convert to Islam after mid-night conversation with a Moroccan Muslim detainee; Ahmed Errashidi.

And that is exactly what Ozma raised in her post: Gitmo and Bagram: A War of Religion? http://www.islamonline.net/discussione/thread.jspa?threadID=24870&tstart=0

Any person trying to convert any person to any religion is a deceiver and manipulator by defenition.  Period.

Why?  Because it always comes down to "believe this or burn for eternity".

In Geneva, they call such tactics "crimes against humanity".  Seriously.

Because it always comes down to "believe this or burn for eternity".

I can well see the evangelist stationed in Iraq and Afghan trying to push there religion off on the people living there. Same as the ''missionaries, they should stop trying to shove there crap off on the people in other country's.  What religion was ..Billy Graham? evangelist. Guess you got that sermon weekly on your t.v. too in your country. ...''meagain''. Need I say more. Graham was an evangelist preacher with a sunday service on t.v. told his followers..god just told me I have to come up with a million dollars by months end, or he will come and get me. I failed him...hahaha.. People were sending him money to save him..LOL...What a scam artist. He finally went to jail for fraud. As someone mentioned..like in Iraq, the people are hungry, no employment, they fall victim to people like the missionaries. Actually the poverty there is the main reason most of them joined the Iraq army. I think it was by design..The illegal invaders made sure the Iraqis were starving by destroying the infrastructure. That way they could turn one against the other in Iraq and get some of them to join the Iraq police and army against there own people. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham

Graham was a buddy of bush and other u.s. president's. I don't think it mentions in the url that Graham went to jail. He was also a missionary. Preached in something like 180 foreign country's. He was evangelist.

Yack, 

I am no fan of evangelists but Billy Graham was a man considered to be of very high integrity.  I believe you are thinking of Jim Bakker or perhaps Oral Roberts.

Susan

I you are trying to tell me that only christians push their faith on others, I'm gonna have to tell you to stop sticking your head in the sand. Every religion does so.  Spreading the faith is a basic duty in every religion out there.

And history shows us that this spreading happend at the tip of a sword or at gunpoint in most cases.

And my point remains. In the end, it always comes down to "believe this or burn for eternity".

Just ask any muslim what happens to you (according to Islam) if you die a non-muslim.  Same story everywhere.

It's manipulation and a crime against humanity.  period.

Or really?? Am I really misguiding anything at all here??

Ok, you tell me then...

I've heared the "glorious" message of Islam hundreds of times.  I choose to reject it.  I will thus die a non-muslim, an infidel.

Tell me... what does Islam say will happen to me then, considering the above???

Am I not correct?  Will I not burn for eternity in Hell according to you, the Koran, the Bible.... etc???

If follow christianity, muslims will say I will burn for not following Islam.  If I follow Islam, christians will say I will burn in hell for not following christ.

Big deal.  I say nobody will burn in hell and all of you are waisting your valuable time and energy.

So please... spare me your excuses.  In the end, you know very well that I am correct.

I really don't care how much rules, details and tracks there are in you faith or anyone elses.  IN THE END, it will simply come down to "believe this or suffer".

ISN'T IT?

But let me ask you a question if you don't believe in God how do you explain this whole universe and the system?

It doesn't matter if I can explain it or not.  I think it is stupid to conclude with "god did it" just because you can't explain something.  And these days, you'ld be amazed with what can be explained.  The entire lifespan of our solar system and everything in it is pretty much very well documented through science.  No God needed.

Don't you feel there has to be some higher entity who is governing it?

No I don't.  I don't see why there should be.

Even if men is so advanced do they have the power to control life or death?

Eum... yes?

We allready doubled our life expectancy in less then 200 years with very primitive medicin.  And I say primitive, because genetics and nano technology are still in child shoes.

Some 2 years ago, an experiment of a medicin against cancer produced a remarkable side effect with a mouse... its cell aging rate was reduced with a factor of 3. This essentially means that if his life expectancy is 10 years, through this treatment he could become 30.

This is only the beginning.  With our eyes on space travel, we need humans that can live for MUCH longer then a few decades.  If science can continue its progress at this rate, in about 100 years we could become 1000 years easily.

Technology that makes us basicly "immortal" is no longer a fairy tale.  We aren't quite there yet, but the potential most certainly is.

And even if we disregard that fact, that's still no reason for me to believe in God.

Believing in any God is in my eyes an irrational jump of the mind.

There's no reason whatesoever to make this jump, aside from giving an answer to questions you can't answer, just to have them answered.

Such answers don't mean anything.

I think I misunderstood your statement

Ok, so you admit it then... in the end, it always boils down to "believe this or suffer".  This is fear manipulation. This is disgusting. And this is why I heavily oppose to any theistic ideology out there.  There are hundreds, thousands of them... and they all say "believe this or suffer". And in some sects it's even "believe this or die and suffer afterwards". 

It makes me want to p uke. Seriously.

Oh I see Hindii, you're baiting me aren't you?  LOL!!

You write a post that you know not to be true and wait for me to fall on my sword defending the door knockers of Christendom and throwing brimstone and hell fire at your example of the good pious Muslim.

So exactly which example should a possible candidate for Islam take??

The warrior Prophet of Islam?

The homicide bombers of the Holy Lands?

The Osama Bin Laden's or the plethora of other militant fanatics that claim Islam as their "example"? Their "reasoning" for everything they do and carry out??

Are you kidding? I don’t think I was kidding.

All religions spread their faith except ofcourse the Jews and Zorastrians. I’d go as far as saying ALL RELIGIONS attempt to spread their faith in many different ways. Setting example, preaching or by force.

But deception is not the right way. Back home in India there is a church and convent school just opposite my house and a nunnery on the last floor of the school. I have seen the missionary targeting the poor the homeless by giving them jobs and admitting their kids in the missionary school free of cost.  And how is that different than all the thousands of Madras’ that do the same exact thing? Preying on the poor and guaranteeing a supposed education while pumping militant hatred into the minds of 10-year olds.

Giving them monthly rations and of course all this benefits come only if they are ready to attend church and wear a cross around their neck. Madras’ provide room and board, 3 squares a day and hours of Quranic studies. What’s the difference?? I doubt the Church is teaching them how to hate everyone else.

A person who is desperate hungry and poor is ready to do anything for a morsel of food. So I suppose that’s why Madras’ are setting the pace since Islam is so prevail ant in poor nations.

Beleive me 50% of the nuns in the covenant are converts you can identify them by their looks most of them come from poor families with many mouths to feed and the parents leave them to these institutes where they also get an education and later end up in the nunnery because they cannot afford the dowry for their marriage. So it’s a bad thing to become a Christian if you’re poor and a good thing to become a Muslim if you’re poor???

Deception does not work with Islam I think it is misleading.  You keep saying “deception”. How is it a deception to hand out a Bible? Again, I don’t agree with it based on our laws preventing such actions by the military, but that being said, there’s no deception, just an attempt to show those that have been denied another point of view an opportunity to make a CHOICE. Something Islam is obviously against.

A person should set an example through its character and good work and inspire others to his faith. That’s a little hard to do since Islam doesn’t allow that same equal playing field other nations and cultures allow Islam.

Very different Madrasahs are schools where Muslims kids are taught religious education. I repeat Muslim kids whether rich or poor does not matter. Ok, well I would agree with you that Madrasah’s might not have an exclusive policy targeting only the poor, but their system is set up to promote that. And yes, so too is the missionary system. You’re right that the poor are always a simple target to fill the ranks, but you’re wrong in saying they don’t have a choice whether or not to give into that system. Is it wrong for a religion, ANY RELIGION to help the poor and expect at least a cursorily look at what they have to offer?

I’ve been approached by Muslims many times asking if I’ve considered Islam. I’ve been given leaflets and I’ve also been asked why I married a Catholic but I’m not a Catholic. My friends that are Muslims give me many insights into these topics we speak of, and many have negative opinions about the system of Madrassah. They point out the ones specifically in poor nations like Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, Indonesia and Bangladesh. Were regulated and monitored, they speak positively. In the poorer nations though, were these schools have no one to be responsible towards, they don’t speak to highly of. Even by their standards these schools go far to the left of what the majority of Muslims believe.  

Pumping hatred? Really I guess they don't pump it that hard otherwise your forces wouldn't last that long on Muslim soil. There is an inherent problem taking young children off the streets and teaching them strict religious doctrine instead of educating them in school to learn how to coup and deal with the 21^st century. Instead of teaching them life sustaining skills that would make them a productive member of society, they teach them a 7^th century ideology that shows little tolerance for the rest of the non-Muslim world. Now to be fair, only a minority of these Madrassah’s are so far teaching this militant mentality. A Pakistani study revealed a 10 to 15% infection within the Madras’ system that teach a hard line militant form of Islam. But it’s growing. Curricular content plays a crucial role in influencing young mindsets. However, the pedagogies practiced by teachers also ensures that students in fact learn what they are intended to learn. The aim here is to highlight the influences of pedagogies used in the madrassahs. Individual madrassahs decide independently what to teach and preach. Many provide only religious subjects to their students, focusing on rote memorization of Arabic texts. This can even take place to the exclusion of basic skills such as simple math, science, or geography. As a result, most graduates of these madrassahs do not fit into the larger world, which is progressing at a higher rate, and where the job market demands certain skills. I agree that US involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq feed this machine of hatred, but its also a window of opportunity that many strict fundamentalist have been waiting for.

While the missionaries target the poor of other faith. See the difference.

I am not saying Muslims don't convert but their Dawah work is different they don't bribe people to convert. I don’t agree. Both target the poor. Muslim’s set up a network for the needy just like Christians. In fact, begging in a Muslim country is against the law since they feel that there is a sufficient support network in place to help them if they need help, thus they don’t need to beg on the streets. Christians have soup kitchens and safe houses and so do Muslims. They both work the same path.

Beleive me 50% of the nuns in the covenant are converts you can identify them by their looks most of them come from poor families with many mouths to feed and the parents leave them to these institutes where they also get an education and later end up in the nunnery because they cannot afford the dowry for their marriage. Well I’d say be the lack of millions of nuns running around the world today, that system must not be working to great. Look, you know and I know that all religions work in the poor neighborhoods simply because the have’s don’t seem to need God as much as the have not’s do. Or at least that’s the trend.

I guess I explained this above. Being poor is not good or bad. Its because they are poor they become easy targets and theres where the Missionary work concentrate on. Again its not as if the poor have choice they want food and a roof over their head and its because of their situation they convert. I see no difference between Muslims and Christians in this area.

Same like the other missionaries they target the poor and with the Bible they also give money. Such incidents have also been reported of the Christian aid agencies during natural disasters in Pakistan and the government had then immediately imposed ban on adoption.Since I haven’t seen any such reports, I can’t really speak on it. I wouldn’t be surprised though if AID groups handed out money since it IS needed to survive and after a disaster you’re unlikely to have a job to go to and earn money.

That’s a little hard to do since Islam doesn’t allow that same equal playing field other nations and cultures allow Islam.

I agree but that happens in the country that has Islamic laws at least they don't deceive the world in portraying a secular image like the West or attack other countries to spread Islam. I see the other way round.There you go with that word “deception” again. As if repeating it makes the reality go away. FACT, Islamic nations DO NOT allow other religions fair and equal access to the population as do Western nations.

That means there is a fear in Islam that an introduction of another faith might (probably would) remove or damage Islam’s dominance in the region. Mohammad said there will be no compulsion in religion but then gave permission to kill an apostate. That’s just one duplicity of Islam.

Salam

The Knights Templar, reportedly, started as a group of Christian knights that were sent to protect the pilgrims that visited Christian sites in Jerusalem.
They then began digging underneath the Temple mount and, reportedly, started to find the Arc of the Covenant.
Whether this is true, Allahu 'Alam.

What is known about them is that they learned about the Jewish Cults and about Kabalah.
Knights Templar means "Knights of the temple of Solomon."

If we know anything about Sulayman(Alayhis salatu was-salam), we will remember that he was given the power to control the Jinn and use them as labour.
So the Templars were involved in invocation of Jinn.
Jinn will not interact with humanity, unless they are Shayateen.

So, the Knights Templar were involved with the Shayateen.

Jewish Kabaalah is also Satanism.
The premise of it is that the Rabbis of old would use intoxicants and interact with what they thought to be Angels.
The angels would give them secret knowledge about the Universe.

Kabalah is Satanism.

The description of the Freemasons is that they protect secret knowledge dating from the times of Firaun in Masr(Pharoh in Egypt).
The Firaun were idolatrous and invokers of Shayateen.

George Washington and all of the Presidents of the USA are and have been Freemasons.

I don't know a whole lot about the Masons.  One of my uncles was one but he certainly wasn't a satan worshiper.  Whatever sites you have gathered your information form, they seem to be pretty off base.  What may have started a very secret organization evolved into more of a service organization.  Also, not all of the US presidents have been Masons, I think it's more like 13 or 14.  So, sorry but the US presidents to not dabble in satanism.

Susan 

OMG !

So actually, the masons are more of a 3 Stooges episode!

Susan

Pack of prissy transvestites prancing about in frocks and waving swords. Put a mason in a paddock with one of my prize bulls and he’d mess himself for sure.

Pfft. the mason men squat when they pee.

I saw this on press TV, absolutely horrified that this could and did take place on foreign soil.  Not only was the Chaplin guilty as sin, but his followers were as well. I is a disgrace to the US military not only because there was forethought in their actions (smuggling bibles in, in two different languages) but also the Chaplin's tone. 

 I wonder how many of these god's followers are still active within the military!  Should have been booted out the lot of them.

PolitiFact weighed in on this issue.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/may/18/pray-jesus-name-project/bibles-sent-soldier-afghanistan-local-distributio/

thanks,

Wolfgang