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Western Vision Of Islam As A threat…Why?
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Apr 20, 2009 1:52 AM
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Why Islam is not acceptable to the West From the western point of views that ISLAM is a threat to Western World. A threat to all evils - commercial evils, business evils, economic evils and also political evils, which are found freely in so called our developed western nations:
1. Islam prohibits alcohol - thus it will stop all business relating to alcohol [Industry, Bars, Night Clubs, etc] - Billion dollars of business will be closed.
2. Islam prohibits free sex, prostitutions - again billion dollars of sex, and prostitutes industries will be closed
3. Islam prohibits commercialization of women - thus billion dollars of putting naked or half naked women in advertisements will be lost.
4. Islam prohibits interest in Banking - thus all Financial Institutions will be closed and change to Islamic Banking Systems.
5. Islam prohibits injustice - thus the whole legal systems of western world need to be changed - Lawyer Firms will be closed.
6.Islam prohibits terrorisms and war - thus billion dollars of defense industries will be closed.
7. Islam prohibits rocks dancing - thus billion dollars music /rock festivals will be closed.
8. Islam prohibits gambling - thus billion dollars casinos will be closed.
9. Islam prohibits free sex - thus billion dollars porno sex films industry will be closed.
10. Islam prohibits prostitutions- thus billion dollars business of trafficking women and children will be closed 11. Islam prohibits abuse of drugs - thus billion dollars of illegal drugs business will be lost.
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nazleen, This is without a doubt one of the goofiest posts I've ever read but since you're in this mode, you forgot a few things... 1. Islam prohibits keeping dogs in the house. Think of all the dogs that would die because of exposure to the elements. 2. Islam prohibits females singing in front of men. Think of all the choirs you could shut down. 3. Islam prohibits the consumption of pork. Think of all the people you could put out of business. 4. Islam DOES NOT seem to prohibit female genital mutilation. This seems to be a contentious subject but think of all the butchers you could put in business. I'll add more later. I'm still trying to absorb this goofiest of posts. Susan
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NOT ONLY ISLAM PROHIBITS THE CONSUMPTION OF PORK. I don't know whether you are a good xtian or not or whether you know the bible. DO YOU KNOW THAT : Both the Bible and the Qur’an prohibit the eating of pork. Muslims are aware of this prohibition and observe it strictly.
However, most readers of the Bible say they do not know where they can find this in the Bible. In the book of Leviticus, chapter 11, v. 7, it is recorded that God declares the pig to be unclean for believers. Then, in
verse 8, God says: “You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you”. This command is
repeated in Deuteronomy 14:7-8. Then, in Isaiah 65:2-4, and 66:17, God issues a stern warning against those who
eat pork. Some people are aware of this prohibition from God, but they say that they can eat pork because St. Paul said that all
food is clean in his letter to the Romans 14:20. St. Paul said this because he believed (as he wrote in his letter to the
Ephesians 2:14-15) that Jesus had abolished the Law with all its commandments and regulations. He seems, however,
to have misunderstood what he heard about Jesus. In the Gospel According to Matthew 5:17-20, Jesus is reported to
have said quite the contrary, as follows: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law . . . .” Jesus then went on
in that passage (in verse 19) to denounce anyone who would break the smallest commandment and teach others
likewise. He also praised his true followers who will practice and teach even the smallest commandment. One of the
commandments, as we have seen, is to stay away from pork. This is why the true followers of Jesus, holding on to his teachings, did not let unclean food such as pork enter their
mouths, so that Peter, the chief disciple, can say, “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean” (Acts of the
Apostles, ch. 10, v. 14) Five chapters later in the Acts of the Apostles, 15:29, we find that the original disciples still differentiate between clean
and unclean foods, and this time Paul is in agreement with them. Six chapters later, in ch. 21, v. 25, their decision to
impose food regulations on believers is mentioned without regret, and this time Paul is challenged to prove that he is in
agreement with them; and he demonstrated his full agreement with them. What remains, then, is that Jesus, on whom be peace, upheld the prohibition against pork. His disciples also upheld it,
and so must all his followers. Those who fail to uphold it need to be informed and reminded of this rule from God.
This is one reason why God sent His final messenger, on whom be peace. God says: “O people of the Scripture ! Now has Our Messenger come unto you, expounding unto you much of that which you
used to hide in the Scripture, and forgiving much. Now has come unto you light from Allah and a plain Scripture.”
(The Meaning of the Glorious Qur’an 5:15). Why is the eating of pork forbidden in Islam? 1. Pork-prohibited in Qur’an The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places. Its prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115. Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked a name other than that of Allah. [Al-Qur’an 5:3] The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.
2. Pork prohibited in the Bible The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus and the swine, as he divideth the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you. Leviticus chapter 11 verse 7 and 8:
Pork is also prohibited in the book of Deuteronomy And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass. Deuteronomy chapter 14 verse 8: A similar prohibition is repeated in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5.
3. Consumption of pork causes several diseases The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various Helminthes, like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which in a layman’s terminology is called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack and if it enters the eye it can cause blindness. If it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body. Another dangerous helminthes is Taenia Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Taenia tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ovas present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.
4. Pork has fat building material Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.
5. Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs. Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta.
6. Pig is the most shameless animal The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. It feels no jealousy. And among people who consume pork, the practice of wife swapping and other forms of promiscuous behaviour is common. So , if you are a pork- eater, better you stop it from now after reading this .ok No offence. bye
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 22, 2009 6:55 PM
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Nazleen, Perhaps the eating of pork was one time very dangerous. It no longer is. I eat pork, so does the rest of my family. No one has ever become sick. It's not as if we sit down to big pig dinners every night. Do you eat chicken? They're not particularly clean either. As for female genital mutilation, I am aware that this is not rooted in Islam, but Islam doesn't seem to forbid it either. No matter who does this, no matter what religion, it is a disgusting practice.
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 24, 2009 10:47 PM
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Hi susu Do you know that women are treated like common whores and sexuals objects in the west. Who cares whether you are a catholic or not!. May be you are a jehovah witness or an adventist.
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 25, 2009 11:28 AM
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You wrote:
"Do you know that women are treated like common whores and sexuals objects in the west."
Stop your idiotic generalizing and look how your religion treats women first,
this is from Bukhari, read:
Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs.
peace from Alaska
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 27, 2009 11:52 PM
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Watch this video. White women pay for sex with black men now.
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 25, 2009 11:13 PM
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No Zidane, I did not know that as I am not a *****. No Zidane, I am not an Adventist or a Jehovah's Witness. I was wondering however if you and Kum go to the same junior high school?!
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 27, 2009 10:17 PM
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Whether you eat pork or ************* Message was edited by: moderator These kinds of replies are not acceptable. Fear Allah, say something good or do not say anything at all, our religion taught us that.
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I've sent you a couple of pms. Susan
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 21, 2009 2:15 AM
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Genital mutilation for females came from and before the existence of the Jews' Talmud: This practice came before the Jews' existence and was religiously accepted by them. But the point I am trying to make here is that since this so called "Book of Talmud" is so holy to the Jews and is considered GOD Almighty's Inspirations to its Rabbis, then shouldn't contain material that is not harmful to humans? Genital mutilation for women is a harmful tradition, and unfortunately, it made it's way in the Talmud to later become a GOD inspired command that must be followed. The Talmud today is the Jews' Holiest Scripture. It is this same sick book that allows for men to have sex with 3-year old girls. And it is the same book that allows genital mutilation for females. : . : His facts: The Jews adopted circumcision as a religious ritual [6, 8,12,14], and preserved this prehistoric practice into modern times [8, 12, 14]. Many theories have been advanced to explain the origin of genital mutilation. One theory postulates that circumcision began as a way of "purifying" individuals and society by reducing sexuality and sexual pleasure. Human sexuality was seen as dirty or impure in some societies; hence cutting off the pleasure-producing parts was the obvious way to "purify" someone. FEMALE MUTILATION IS NOT AN ISLAMIC REQUIREMENT. All practices of female circumcision and multilation are crimes and have no relationship with islam. As far as i know there are still many christian tribes in Africa continue the practice as a matter of cultural tradition.
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 21, 2009 2:20 AM
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Well this practices (Female mutilation) are not prescribes by islam only and are in fact found among non-muslim groups such as coptic-christians of EGYPT, Several christian groups in Kenya and the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia.
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You know susan The practice(FM) tends to be always associated with Muslims in the Western mind, but one of the epicenters is Ethiopia, a majority Christian nation. One of my best friend, who went there for holidays to visit her parents narrated me that Ethiopia still practices Female mutilation, My Ethiopian christian friend who is in the t same UNI as mine once described finding a hut in a village near the regional capital Jijiga a few months ago.when she visited her relatives there. Inside there was a row of little girls sitting close to each other with their legs stretched out and their ankles tied together. They had undergone the procedure earlier in the week and were having to sit dead still for days on end for the wounds to heal.. she told me. The other image was from her own visit to the town of Gode, not so far from the border with Somalia. A group of boys were playing outside their school, watched by a line of girls. She asked one of the teachers why the girls weren’t playing with them. The teacher shrugged and said “We’re afraid that if they fall they may break their stitches.” My friend told me that FM are widely practiced even by christians Note Ethiopia IS a christian country susan
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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INTERESTING TOPIC INDEED.IT'S TIME THINK TO SERIOUSLY START A TOPIC ON THIS ISSUE. I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE IT ALL TO SUSAN Well, I am from Africa. I can say that Female mutilation is still there, still widely practice and it's not a religious custom,rather it's cultural. and see this video The terror of the female circumcision in Christianity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fUlsMafFjM
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Female Mutilation has nothing to do with islam , you understand .Its a practice that has been started by pagans in North East of Africa and been known to be practised even amongst Pharaohs, Ethiopian Jews (even till today) Christians and pagans. Some christians in Africa still practice it. .
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Goofiest ; it's you who is the most goofiest here YOU KEEP DOGS AND SEE WHAT YOU DO WITH THEM. Police : woman has sex with dogs while watching kiddie **** Friday, Mar 27 2009 Lock up your dogs..and your children. 
SARASOTA COUNTY — A woman videotaped herself having sex with two dogs and watching child pornography with a friend, authorities say. Caroline Willette, 53, gave a CD with the images to an acquaintance, who turned it over to police. Willette has been charged with three counts of possessing child **** and remained Wednesday in the Sarasota County Jail. Willette admitted to detectives that she had sex with the animals in her home and watched young girls perform sex acts on the Internet, an arrest report says.
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So, you don't like something I post so you dig up this type of thing? It is indeed disgusting but just as perverted, is the person who goes trolling for type of thing. Now go back to squeezing your pimples or whatever other adolescent activity you were engaged in when you ran across this thread.
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ARE TRULY GOING WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE. Read again what your people are doing with animals and dogs. Justin Lloyd Sharp is one sick puppy.He is accused of having sex with his dog and possessing child ****. In fact,Justin was so proud of his relationship with his four-year old male German Shepherd that he made a videotape of the encounter, which investigators found on his computer along with videos of preteen girls as young as 4 and 5 years old having sex with grown men. According to his arrest record Justin, born 4/10/1990, lives with his mother at 3197 N Meridian WY Apt C Palm Beach Gardens, FL. They owned two dogs: a 4-year-old male and a 8-year-old female both German Shepherds, and they also owned two cats. He was charged with one count of cruelty to animals, two counts of promoting sexual performance by a child and seven counts of possessing photographs of sexual performance by a child. There is no doubt, because of the videotape, that Justin raped the 4-year-old male dog; which he has admitted to doing only once. However his own mother, during a related civil case, testified that Justin had told her that he’d had sex with that particular dog four times. Detectives said they had reason to believe that the eight-year-old German Sheppard was also abused. All the animals have since been removed from the residence and both (mother and son) have been barred for life from ever owning another pet. Deputy Sheriff Eric Davis of the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office is deeply disturbed by the case Shame shame shame
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Because Islam is presented as a middle-eastern religion...
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Apr 25, 2009 8:22 AM
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One reason some westerners don't accept Islam is that the behaviour of (the majority of muslims?). Another reason is that Islam is presented as a middle-eastern, tribal religion. Let me just point out that it is not Islam which prohibts keeping dogs in the house. It is just the view of some jurists. In muslim North Africa (Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia..) people keep dogs in the house. Coptic christianity does not seem to prohibit female genital mutilation either. You may know tht egyptian and sudanese christians still practise it, whereas it is not to be found in Mecca.
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Re: Because Islam is presented as a middle-eastern religion...
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Tarik, Perhaps you have not read my answer to a certain post, I know that female genital mutilation has no basis in Islam. Islam just doesn't seem to forbid it! I added that wherever this is practiced, it is indeed disgusting! Susan
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No, Susan. My post was not intended
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No, Susan. My post was not intended to you pesonnally. Thanks
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Your assumptions are wrong
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Hi Tarikonline, I think you are missing the mark with your assumptions. Islam is presented as a middle-eastern, tribal religion. I don't care where a person's religion originates (and neither does anyone I know). I had a good friend who followed Buddha...he was a good person and did not intrude on my rights to believe differently from him, so our religious differences did not affect the warmth I felt toward him as a friend. By the way, as a follower of Jesus, my religion also originated in the Middle East. keeping dogs in the house Dogs...this is another non-issue. I personally hate animals in the house, but my dear mother-in-law loved her little lap dog. It didn't affect our relationship at all! female genital mutilation Here, you have raised an issue which is a contentious one amongst people in the West who see female circumcision as nothing less than mutilation, versus the opinions of those in other cultures who perform the procedure. We DO hate it when little girls are disfigured by the adults who care for them, no matter what the religion. But this singular issue does not give rise to a general "unacceptance" of all Muslims because of some who believe this way. Please consider these points: The World Trade Center was not destroyed because some people in the West keep dogs in their houses. Beheadings and suicide bombings are not carried out because parents refuse to circumcise their daughters. The massive death toll during the siege of Mecca in 1979 by Juhayman Al Otaibi was perpetrated BY devout Muslims TO OTHER devout Muslims; all those involved were ardent followers of your middle-Eastern tribal religion. Until you discover the root cause of WHY Islamic terrorists attack those who believe differently from them (and most attacks have been on other Muslims) the situation will continue unabated. Rosa
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Islam wrongly presented as a local religion
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Yes, the problem is not with where the faith originates. I meant Islam is presented as middle-eastern, i.e, presented as a local religion, whereas it is not. Am I clear? My religion is not tribal or regional as u wrongly stated. If you prefer opening the files of terrorism/extermination/mass murder/slavery, linking them to a specific religion, your religion, I have too many examples for you about your folks.
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dog: In sura Ka'haf in Quran Allah has praised the dog that remained faithfull with seven sleepers of cave in difficult time (As'haabe Ka'af). Quran does not forbid from keeping a dog. However it is common sense to protect your food from his saliva and do not take any health risk. Also every one should know that in Non-Muslim western societies, (excuse me for saying this truth) many women do intercourse with their dogs. Surely this is a big evil and dog is not supposed to be used for this evil purpose. Muslims do keep dogs, but not inside the house, but outside, we keep dogs for our security and as you know well dogs are faithful animal and our best friend. susan.
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There are sick people in every society
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Human/Animal sex is equally unacceptable in every culture. Therefore, if one could come up with reliable statistics, it would be revealed that the incidence of the number of people who are afflicted with this sickness, is equal in all societies...including yours.
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Re: There are sick people in every society
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ROCHESTER, Mn. (AP) 39-year-old Mark Allan Nelson has been arrested for distributing obscene videotapes of himself having sex with farm animals after a local woman loaned her videocassette recorder to a friend who returned it with the sexual videotape inside. The woman called police who later arrested Nelson. A search of his residence revealed several more videotapes which clearly showed him engaging in sexual intercourse with cows. Nelson was charged with two misdemeanor counts for distributing obscene materials and one misdemeanor for bestiality. Nelson admitted he had sex with farm animals (but insisted it was the animal's idea). By the way i have never heard of any other religions(be it budhists, hindus or tamilians or muslims having sex with animals) could you pls give us some clues here. By the way i am not a muslims, i am a atheist. I was christian but left it after reading so many bad stuffs about my ex-religions. Pls visit this site if ever you have time.
Ex-christian.net www.Evilbible.com I am also very active on these two webs i contribute a lot on these site.
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Zidane, you need to learn to read. I said nothing about religion. I wrote, "Human/Animal sex is equally unacceptable in every CULTURE."
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Re: There are sick people in every society
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EvilBible.com is Dead. Large portions of evilbible.com have been discredited. They make assertions without proving foundations upon which to base their condemnations. They manipulate the text of the Bible and their readers by providing faulty logic, misapplications, misinterpretaions and leaving out texts that would conflict with their premises. Evidence of this has been provided here: http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/07/evilbiblecom-is-dead.html
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Farah, Also every one should know that in Non-Muslim western societies, (excuse me for saying this truth) many women do intercourse with their dogs. Surely this is a big evil and dog is not supposed to be used for this evil purpose. Where do you hear this rubbish? Susan
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You can't fool us Susan.. put that jar of peanut butter away....LOL.
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I don't agree with you when you claim "many" women indulge in sex..
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1-Yes, Farah. We, muslims, do keep dogs, not where we sleep or eat, but in the garden for example. 2-But I don't agree with you when you claim "many women indulge in sex with dogs in the West". Using the term "many" is not cautious. It seems an exageration. 3-By the way, in our societies some men indulge in sex with animals as well. I can not say they are "many" either.
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nazleen you forget to name gay marriage and sex-marriage in christianity or most of the christians priests are pedophile. You know i am not a follower of christ anymore becauseof the few examples you cited above. I AM A HARDCORE ATHEIST. PLS VISIT THIS SITE. www://Evilbible.com
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi Annaelle. Totaly agreed with you. To this sususususu Mind your own business, I SEE IT'S HARD TO SWALLOW THE PILL WH*RE. YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND ANYTHING. It's hard for you to digest. Of course you will never accept. What goofies is there in this article written by another poster here. It's you who is ****. Pls NazleenB. WRITE AGAIN. I AGREED WITH YOU WHOLEHARTEDLY. YOU ARE RIGHT. I WELCOME YOUR POST AND IT IS TRUE 100PERCENT,
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mind my own business? I thought this was an open forum. Do you own Islam-Online? Please let me know!
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Guys, this is an open forum as Susan said. I think Nazleen that you wanted to do something good, but you put it in a wrong way. As for Kum, you’ve brought examples of real sick people and those can be found everywhere. I think we need to rewrite this post. Later,
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you Maryam! Susan
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Excellent reply, my compliments to Maryam, too much generalizing here,
let's get real and discuss something worthwhile.
peace from Alaska
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Susan what are you doing here?You have evil intentions,why don't you talk about Israel,crimes USA is involved in,raping and killing little children and woman in all 'bad"countries,like Iraq?You really make me sick!!!! You only criticize Islam and its people,do us all a favor and go away asap!
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Alma1, You're kind of late answering this post aren't you? Perhaps my choice of words was not exactly appropriate but did you read some of what folllowed? Stop whining! I did not start this thread. Susan
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Re: Why Islamis not acceptable to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Do you realise that in most of the western world, more then half of what you just mentioned is illegal anyhow? prostitution, gambling, drugs, human trafficking (thus slavery), ... lol Lawyer Firms will be closed. In Islam the accused hasn't got the right to defend himself or to be defended in a court of law? That's certainly interesting... Financial Institutions will be closed and change to Islamic Banking Systems Financial Institutions don't need to close, they just change business in the "Islamic" way. So there's no loss there. So the only thing you are left with is Alcohol, Casino's and ****. The last two is only used by a minority. This is also pretty much what christianity propagates. So in essence, your argument is pretty much debunked. These are not the reasons why islam is "apparantly" not acceptable in the west, since Christianity holds practically the same values. Clearly there must be something else... Think long and hard.
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Re: Why Islam is not acceptable to the West!!!!!
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Nazleen, Please read the post to me by Zidane. She/He/It called me a *****. She/He/It didn't agree with something I wrote so now I am a *****. I don't know if IT is a Muslim but perhaps, just perhaps, this is what Westerners find questionable - the all out visciousness and consuming belief that only you are right. Susan
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Re: Why Islam is not acceptable to the West!!!!!
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Besides, who said that Islam is not acceptable to the West?
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Hi Maryam, You wrote, "who said that Islam is not acceptable to the West?" That's exactly what I was thinking! There is not a single Western freedom that non-Muslim have which is denied to Muslims! So what if a person refuses to drink alcohol or chooses to hide his mone in his mattress instead of putting it in a bank! No one is "not accepted" by Western society because he or she holds to these views...as a matter of fact, there is not a single issue you listed that is not also held by others in Western society. Rosa
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Rosa, Thank you also! Susan
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Re: Why Islam is not acceptable to the West!!!!!
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Why Islam is not acceptable to the West First I do not agree with the question and I think Islam IS acceptable to the west, aren’t there millions of Muslims living in the west with their culture, Masjids and eveything? We must also admit that there has been a kind of Islamophobia after 9/11 rose by those who benefit from clashes between people. From the western point of views that ISLAM is a threat to Western World. A threat to all evils - commercial evils, business evils, economic evils and also political evils, which are found freely in so called our developed western nations: No, do not come to that conclusion Nazleen that the west sees Islam as a threat. Islam has always been there and was never a threat to any one, on the contrary.
1. Islam prohibits alcohol - thus it will stop all business relating to alcohol [Industry, Bars, Night Clubs, etc] - Billion dollars of business will be closed. Not only Islam that prohibits alcohol, all religions do, but you cannot control everybody. As for closing alcohol Industry, Bars, Night Clubs I wish it can be achieved someday because they are evil indeed.
2. Islam prohibits free sex, prostitutions - again billion dollars of sex, and prostitutes industries will be closed Again all religions prohibit them and common sense hates that.
3. Islam prohibits commercialization of women - thus billion dollars of putting naked or half naked women in advertisements will be lost.
Again all religions prohibit them and common sense hates that.
4. Islam prohibits interest in Banking - thus all Financial Institutions will be closed and change to Islamic Banking Systems. Islam prohibits interest in Banking in a certain way. You can have your own Islamic Bank working according to Sharia’ law and you’ll have more interest in lawful Halal way; in fact economy experts are talking today about adopting the very successful Islamic way in dealing with money and banks after the economic crisis.
5. Islam prohibits injustice - thus the whole legal systems of western world need to be changed - Lawyer Firms will be closed. The whole world prohibits injustice too and I can’t see why legal firms should close! 6. Islam prohibits terrorisms and war - thus billion dollars of defense industries will be closed. No one likes terrorisms and war; however, it is obvious that some politicians and countries use wars as a mean to get money and be rich.
7. Islam prohibits rocks dancing - thus billion dollars music /rock festivals will be closed. Islam has its own kind of music according to Sharia’ and music was heard in a certain way in occasions like weddings and the songs made to encourage people and improve their morals during wars for instances, and songs made for martyrs etc…
8. Islam prohibits gambling - thus billion dollars casinos will be closed. And so do all religions. Gambling is a mean way to steal money anyway and it Haram in all religions.
9. Islam prohibits free sex - thus billion dollars porno sex films industry will be closed. Again all religions prohibit them and common sense hates that. The world will certainly be a better place without porno sex films.
10. Islam prohibits prostitutions- thus billion dollars business of trafficking women and children will be closed
11. Islam prohibits abuse of drugs - thus billion dollars of illegal drugs business will be lost. Again for 10 & 11 all religions prohibit them and common sense hates that. To conclude, we can see Nazleen that the world does agree with Islam because it is common sense after all.
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terrorist : I shot blindfolded Iraqi prisoner at point-blank range Friday, Feb 20 2009 I think madam Maryam is arab, she must read this : Winning hearts and minds as usual.
A U.S. soldier confessed to military investigators that he shot a bound and blindfolded Iraqi prisoner point-blank in the back of the head, according to a video played at his murder trial today. Sgt Michael Leahy, 28, told the Germany-based investigators that after shooting the first prisoner, he turned his 9mm pistol on another captive. ‘The detainee I shot fell back on me,’ he said in the videotape of the January 2008 interrogation played at his trial in the Army’s Rose Barracks’ courtroom. ‘I turned to the right and saw the other detainee flinch, and turn his head after he heard the shot. My weapon was pointed toward him, my weapon was anywhere from a foot to a couple of inches away. I hit him in the side of the head, the face, anywhere from the ear forward.’ But the shot didn’t kill the second man, so Master Sgt John Hatley, 40, finished him off with a shot to the chest, Leahy said. ‘I’m ashamed of what I’ve done,’ he said in the video, occasionally wiping tears from his eyes and holding his face in his hands. ‘I don’t consider myself a murderer. I made a huge mistake. I’ll accept the consequences.’Leahy has pleaded not guilty to charges of premeditated murder, conspiracy to commit premeditated murder and obstruction of justice in the deaths of a total of four Iraqi prisoners, who were dumped in a Baghdad canal in 2007 after they were killed. Leahy is also being tried for the alleged murder of another Iraqi who was shot while in his care as a medic in January of 2007. The Illinois man faces a possible life in prison and dishonourable discharge if convicted. Six soldiers including Leahy are accused of involvement in the slaying of the four prisoners sometime between March 10 and April 16, 2007. All were with the 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division in Iraq, which is now part of the Germany-based 172nd Infantry Brigade. Leahy, Hatley and Sgt 1st Class Joseph Mayo, 27, are accused of pulling the trigger. According to testimony at the court-martial, which began Tuesday, at least four Iraqis were taken into custody in spring 2007 after a shootout with a patrol that included five other accused soldiers. The prisoners were taken to the U.S. unit’s operating base in Baghdad for questioning and processing though there wasn’t enough evidence to hold them for attacking the unit. Later that night patrol members took the Iraqis to a remote area and shot them in retribution for the attacks against the unit, according to testimony. Three soldiers are scheduled for later courts-martial. Sgt Charles Quigley, 28, of Providence, Rhode Island, faces one charge of conspiracy to commit premeditated murder. Mayo and Hatley are charged with premeditated murder, conspiracy to commit premeditated murder, and obstruction of justice. Two more soldiers – Spc (specialist) Steven Ribordy, 25, of Salina, Kansas, and Spc Belmor Ramos, 23, of Clearfield, Utah - pleaded guilty last year to conspiracy to commit premeditated murder.
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Love this site, man! Keep speaking the truth.
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Re: Is Islam Not Acceptable to The West?
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Another thing why Islam would not be acceptable is.
We have a code of dress other than an etiquette in life in terms of how our distinguished women shouls live their way of lives.
Proper code of life veiling: themselves from other lewd and lascivious men of today -be they the lewd pandits or the christian paedophiles both suffer from abnormal neuron deficient.
Our women would never visit a priest for confession of sin like the media has reported: women being victimised by the lascivious priests while confessing their sins. Priests under the effect of wine listening to their christian women'sconfessions : sexual lives with different partners landed unfortunately into the net of those priests who are more tempting than temptation.
Just imagine : your wife confessing to the priest inside the cubible -- the priest is after all a man with all his sexual urges and drives listening attentively to confessions of your wife. He might querry more about her life and make advance on her viewing his nature as a man with all his driving mechanism which can propel his engine at any given time in moment of his weaknesses. We are all subject to our weknesses. There has been cases where priests have evaded with the wives of the congregation, a lot more to say about the sexual misbehaviour of those lewd priests. Just surf the internet and see for yourself, stunning incidents unprecedented in christian history. Finally the Pope has to intervene to identify those lewd priests and excommunicate them unconditionally pursuant to their abnormal sexual behaviour.
Many priests have been defrocked in a similar way.
Is this the door of salvation ? would your priests tell me that my wife has opted the right lane after I realise that my wife is having an affair with him ?
Remember that a priest is also taut with all characteristic of a man and enjoy similar weaknesses like any other man on this planet. would he not default if the chance be alloted to him inside a closed cubicle wher he is listening to sexual pornographic session of the woman.
There has been instances where the priest has been urging lasciviously more impertinent questions from the gorgeous ladies.
Now the christian ladies dress in the most sexy dress inside the cubicle confessing their crimes, with their meat exposed -- their glamorous and fair skin as they sit in their tight mini dress which prompts the tempted priests. On top, their protruberant tits glistening in their cups as the priests eye occasionally the lady thighs and everything gorgeous from the *** to the exposed meat. what is wrong if the priest tries his chance provided the lady might get her visa for heaven ? hahahahahah
this is where we are nowadays and at this conjuncture many of the congregation have exited the door of salvation which is a mirage to many. 
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Re: Is Islam Not Acceptable to The West?
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Oh my Zidane, I'm not a Catholic and do not know a whole lot about the confessional...but you certainly do, don't you? I have no idea how people are dressed when they go to confession. Do you watch them carefully? Remember that a priest is also taut with all characteristic of a man and enjoy similar weaknesses like any other man on this planet. would he not default if the chance be alloted to him inside a closed cubicle wher he is listening to sexual pornographic session of the woman.
There has been instances where the priest has been urging lasciviously more impertinent questions from the gorgeous ladies.
Now the christian ladies dress in the most sexy dress inside the cubicle confessing their crimes, with their meat exposed -- their glamorous and fair skin as they sit in their tight mini dress which prompts the tempted priests. On top, their protruberant tits glistening in their cups as the priests eye occasionally the lady thighs and everything gorgeous from the *** to the exposed meat. It would seem Zidane, that you are doing some rather lewd and lascivious daydreaming yourself. You're practically swooning with desire!!
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Zidane, I forgot to add...with the language in your post, you could probably supplement your income writing for Playboy. OhOh - 'The Naughty Priest and the Sexy Ladies in the Confessional'. Susan
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Wow Kumbahkaran. excellent job here. Pls do publish more article. Really like to read it. well The vast majority of terrorists in the world are white males. The most destructive wars in history were(and are still) waged by whites, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of millions. The most destructive weapons are made by whites. Pornography is manufactured exclusively by whites. They are slowly but surely destroying the environment. Whites are more likely to be sexual predators, child molesters, rapists, stalkers and mass murderers. Why? The problem lies in their own nihilistic belief of racial superiority and the lack of a real sustainable culture based on higher principles of tolerance and respect.
The white race must be pacified and civilized for the betterment of the planet. This will become a reality as enlightened whites shed their racist heritage and rejoin the human race as equals.
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Re: Is Islam Not Acceptable to The West?
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Wow.some hot discussions here.I have seen lot of anger from my questions and responses
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Wow, your words against the white race are VERY bigotted. The entire white race is evil??? I am white......I don't condone unjust wars, don't own a gun, don't dabble in ****, never molested, never murdered, and never feel superior over any other race. IMO bigots are lazy people who refuse to see others as individuals. Lumping into groups is a cop out. Lets be mindful always to fear Allah.
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Re: Western Vision Of Islam As A threat…Why?
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yes it's a threat,it have killed 2 million people in Iraq,thousands in Afganistan,almost 3 thousand in palestine,thousands in Pakistan and still counting,we the muslims are a big threat to this small diabolic world
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Re: Western Vision Of Islam As A threat…Why?
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Islam prohibits alcohol - thus it will stop all business relating to alcohol [Industry, Bars, Night Clubs, etc] - Billion dollars of business will be closed. Yes right ! I have traveled most of the middle East and major parts of Africa, believe me Muslims drink. Islam prohibits free sex, prostitution - again billion dollars of sex, and prostitutes industries will be closed Depending on which form of Islam you follow this can very easily by passed. Islam prohibits commercialization of women - thus billion dollars of putting naked or half naked women in advertisements will be lost. Agree with this, in general this is correct. Islam prohibits injustice - thus the whole legal systems of western world need to be changed - Lawyer Firms will be closed. Rubbish, Sharia is in my opinion is barbaric, stoning, hanging,amputation and beatings are NOT acceptable to me. Sorry Islam prohibits terrorism and war - thus billion dollars of defense industries will be closed. Again some elements of Islamic perceptions allows terrorists to kill 100's of innocent people including your own brothers. Islam prohibits rocks dancing - thus billion dollars music /rock festivals will be closed. What just rock ?........ What about rap (me gun killed me brother ) or rave or Techno or.................or...................or. Music cannot be banned too much rhythms in the blood. Clean yes, banned Nooooooooo. Islam prohibits gambling - thus billion dollars casinos will be closed. Yep I could live with that!!!!!!!!!!! Although I do fancy a punt on Hatton Tom teach you Yankees a thing or two. Islam prohibits free sex - thus billion dollars porno sex films industry will be closed. Agreed, however what about the mans day dream of two lesbians getting down . Difficult to get out of my head. Islam prohibits prostitution- thus billion dollars business of trafficking women and children will be closed 11. Islam prohibits abuse of drugs - thus billion dollars of illegal drugs business will be lost. Message was edited by: Moderators Agreed, however Iran, Egypt,Iraq and many other so called Islamic states enjoy a good................................................................. You got it , no different to the West!!!!!!!!!!!! It's called Testosterone
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