Lebanon's death toll:

29 - Lebanese soldiers

80 - Hezbullah guerillas

825 - Lebanese civilians (one third under 12)

1:7.57 – Ratio of Military to Civilian Casualties

(7.57 innocent people killed for every Target)

Israel's death toll:

36 Israeli Soldiers

19 Israeli civilians

1:0.53 – Ratio of Military to Civilian Casualties

(0.53 innocent people killed for every Target)

Conclusion:

The majority of Lebanese deaths are civilians. The majority of Israeli deaths are soldiers.

Thanks for the numbers you put in here.  The Lebonese people still win this war that Israel brought to them.

Killing and mudering is what the theives in Israel do best, it is not surprise to me that these theives murders many women and children to fullfill their thirst to kill anyone. I just glad their is one group of Lebonese fighters who are able to return the  favor to the theives and teach them that they no long able to rob and murder without consequences.

And I heard that many people in Israel are trying to emigrate their country. In the end, the Arabs do not have to kill many civilians at all, the coward Israelis will try to avoid death and let their incompetent IDF suffer their own fate themselves.

"I’m sure there is a big net emigration from Israel, as it suddenly has become apparent that he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword." http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2006/08/it-must-be-frightening-to-be-israeli.html

I just hope that ***President in Iran understands the balance of power.

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ASSETS?  HAAAAAA!!!!!

YOU MEAN  'ASSESTS REAPED FROM OIL CONSUMPTION FROM   GLUTTONIZED AMERIKAN CONSUMERS--LIKE YOU    HAAAAA !!!!!

ALL IRAN NEEDS TO DO--IS CLOSE THEIR OIL OFF TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU     HAAAA!!!!!

ALL THAT NEEDS TO FOLLOW IS THAT THE U.S. PUPPET MUSLIM NATIONS---FINALLY ADHERE TO THE WILL OF THEIR PEOPLE---AND TURN THEIR OIL TAPS OFF!!!

WHAT DO YOU DO -- IF THAT HAPPENS--?????

I just hope that ***** President in Iran understands the balance of power.

I disagree with this statement.  If Iranian's president is really an *****, he would voluntary disarm the Iranian military and make the Iranians vulnerable to be murder by the theives for their oil.  The reason why Bush and his co-robbers don't like Iranians to be strong militarly is because Bush and his co-robbers had been planning to murder the Iranian for their oil for a while now.  The only thing that stop Bush from going ahead with the murder campaigns is because the Iran is still capable of defending themselves against the theives.

A-Unit, the president of Iran, doesn't hate Jews. He hates zionism. He calls for israel to be moved elsewhere and cleared from the Middle East. If i remember correctly, about 10 or more different Jewish leaders have called for the eradication of Palestine. Want some help with this part? I can prove it. Not just that, but those leaders encourage rape and murder of Muslims, so they are the guilty one's, guilty of anti-semetism. I don't hate Jews, i hate zionists. They are scum. If they are wiped out, then Jews will finally be heard.All these years, we've seen the zionist propaganda disease their mind, making them think ugly things. They hate, despise, want blood. Jews, Christians and Muslims don't want that in reality. Even the corrupted books have beautiful scripture that calls for patience and peace. I wish all Muslims were united, then you would see a tolerant society. Unfortunately, we aren't so we are getting what we deserve,humiliation. But the true Muslims aren't. They still win. If Hizbullah is really a terrorist group, then God(Allah, Elohim) will destroy them eventually. Just like israel, america and everyone else who will be served justice from Him. So for now, while we wait, let's at least be honest here. The Iranian president, if he speaks about destroying Jews, is nothing more than a fool. But he hasn't called for the Jews to be wiped out, he called for israel to be wiped out. You're a Jew. You know that God calls for you and your people to wander the world in Diaspora for all ages until Judgement Day. That is your commandment. Will you deny this?

UNITED,

              PLEASE MAKE NOTE THAT 'Bennitte,' is not Bennite.

PLEASE DISREGARD. HE IS AN AMERIKAN DEPRAVED SOLDIER.

                               Regards,

                                           Bennite

That's right, Hizbullah won.

Now they have to topple the Sinoura government, who will not take responsibilty for anything and will blame everything on Syria.

thieves in the Israel.  Just in case new poster, don't know what I mean.  Please read new posters.

for instance, where in the link did it say that it was an israeli objective to murder as many lebanese civilians as possible? 

I have to do a great deal of translation to see what the thieves really is saying.  Just look at Bush, when he said the want to "liberate" the Iraqis, he was really saying he want to murder  the Iraqis and their leaders for their oil.  You can tell what they really mean when the actually doing the action.

Taking the thieves' words litterly is reason why so many people suffer.

The thieves in Israel attempt to "bomb the Lebonese into stone age" is what the thieves in Israel really was saying.  Just look at what they actually do to the Lebonese.  The constantly killed Lebonese civilians to bent their will to live and bombing their living infrustructure simple to kill them all.  The thieves drops cluster bombs  simpley to murder the Lebonese right away and in the long turn.  It is good thing they got Hizballah militant who was able to fight the thieves near the border.

Every goal that the thieves in Israel set out to do has all fail miserbly.  This is something everyone including thieves worshippers like yourself can agree on.

You can continue to be defiant and call truth tellers liar, but we all know the thieves in the Israel fail their mission. 

Those of you who continue to deny the thieves criminal activities are just making yourself look like a fool. The thieves criminal activities is everywhere and even those who initially support this behavior are now being forced to acknowledge that the robber operation against the Leboneses people is a failure.  And the Jews in the robbery center of Israel also admit that the robbery attempt against the Lebonese people had been a failure despite their success in murdering over a 1000 Lebonese civilians.  And that Hizballah remain an obstable to their hope of one day killing the Lebonese people into submission so that the Lebonese nation can be robbed and occupied.

You know what I am talking about.

the totalitarian stooge, bennty, and the plunderer songyang  look like theyre getting pretty desperate.  the truth is, yang, that the "objectives of israel in lebanon" which you graciously outlined for us at the start of this thread are - a complete fiction of your own invention, the product of your own febrile imaginings.  since you have proved yourself incompetent to provide any sort of justification for your lies, might i suggest you do the honourable thing, and withdraw them?

as for you, roman centurion, i realise that you are caught in a 1970s time warp as you keep referring to a "british national front".  might i suggest you do a bit of revision in the matter of recent political history, and at the same time, get rid of your flared trousers (probably in dire need of a wash anyhow) and your platform-soled shoes

Hi Songyang.

This is what the poor Palestine and Lebanon people have to deal with on a daily bases..Corrupt Israel.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/463A879F-AF7F-4E2A-94E9-E36F4D5C1962.htm

Hello Joeyrae,

Thanks for sharing the info. This thread got barried  and I didn't get  a chance to response to some thieves worshippers or robbery ideologists, but I glad you share some info to bring up this thread to the front so I can respond to the thieves worshippers.

Song

What do you know about the Israeli goals in Lebanon?

Do you really think for one second the IDF went to war over a couple of captured soldiers?

The Israelis got a big old buffer zone in between them and Lebanon.

If the Hezbollah boys get stupid again, the IDF won't have any problem correcting that.

You've got a weird way of claimming victory.

What do you know about the Israeli goals in Lebanon?

There goal is just like as they have in the past to kill their victims into submission.  The only difference in this one is that some of their killers are being captured by the Lebonese militias.  After you watched their robbery activities for so many times, you just know.

Do you really think for one second the IDF went to war over a couple of captured soldiers?

That is not the only reason why they want to murder the Lebonese people to deprive them of their right to live freely.  I don't really think the thieves care much about the killers captured by the Lebonese militias.  As we saw, the theives failed miserbly to achieve any of their tactics.

The Israelis got a big old buffer zone in between them and Lebanon.

They always have this.  This is what they do all the time.

If the Hezbollah boys get stupid again, the IDF won't have any problem correcting that.

Capturing killers is not a mistake.  Killers should be lock up, and the Lebonese militia was doing the right thing.

You've got a weird way of claimming victory.

You are not making any sense at all and this entire thread is a classic example of baseless accusations, assumptions, ramblings and pure stupidity.

Any decent judge in any country would laugh in your face if you were to present them a case like you do here.  You don't have a single shred of evidence for any of your claims.  And when one starts to analyse your claims, one can only conclude that none of them make any sense.

You are not making any sense at all and this entire thread is a classic example of baseless accusations, assumptions, ramblings and pure stupidity.

Of course to you this does not make sense to you.  You are a thieves defender and will say only things that will benefit the thieves.  For me, I don't do that.  I state things the way it happens.  I don't depend on the political genious and fabricated stories like you.

Any decent judge in any country would laugh in your face if you were to present them a case like you do here.

Kangaroo court judge will not like facts and anything that come out of independent observers community.  This is the reason why we don't Kangaroo court judges or any judge the thieves pay for. 

You don't have a single shred of evidence for any of your claims. And when one starts to analyse your claims, one can only conclude that none of them make any sense.

I have plenty of evidence and there are plenty of evidence through the international community. It was clear evidence that the thieves in Israel failed to achieve their goal and you know it.  The only way any of my post is going to make sense to you is if you no longer embrace the ideology of robbery and stop attempting to right the wrong.

You wasted more time on this site dstoke if you continue to say things that are nonesense and continue to post things that make you look like an *****

Meagain maybe thieves supporter like you but he is a better liar than you. His political genioius and IQ is a lot higher than you, which is why he know how to pretend to be nice to the victims of robbery.   And I respect him for that.

Your English is not any better than mine either so don't pretend like you know everything.

There's just no fooling you Songyang.

You're to smart for us all.

And then there's that unique ability you have ignoring all questions and answering everyone and everything with THIEVES ROBBERS AND MURDERERS.

There is no doubt that Israel lost. Here, it is in the fine print from the BBC, so0me fine excerpts for everyone's reading pleasure:

And those brave "defenders" of Lebanon have turned to destroy it again.

It appears they are not the selfless do-gooders after all.

Enjoy your "victory" Lebanon.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6365768,00.html

Salaams

BB

Mr. Cyberers,

From what I understand of the Lebanon situation, the current strife has surfaced due to Hezbollah's recent "claim to fame", as it were.

The war in my opinion was not a "lost" to Israel in the sense that their nation suffered major set backs in territorial loss or major loss of Israeli lives.
Nor was the probable mission of the IDF (Destruction for Hezbollah as a military threat) a success.

Israel did manage to get a small international force placed into a "buffer zone". They also got the Lebanese military actively involved in policing the border, something they've never been willing to do.

So in that respect, Israel did gain something.

But Hezbollah still exist as a viable fighting force armed with long range rockets.
Hezbollah is still present in the buffer zone and more popular than ever in the eyes of the locals for their determined stand against the Israeli juggernaut.
Hezbollah was capable of inflicting enough damage on the IDF as to make it rely more and more on air power. That air power became detrimental to Israel's international standing.
The world started seeing Israel's air attacks as "indiscriminate" and "unwarranted".

In essence, Hezbollah won the propaganda war, and in regions like the Middle East, image is everything. If you can convince the people to support your cause, you've made a lot of ground.

But what about the strife today in Lebanon?

The war is over, and one would think Lebanon would be busy rebuilding the southern region.

Unfortunately for Lebanon, Hezbollah has become far more emboldened by its rise to popularity.

Hezbollah believes it sacrificed a lot in the recent war without the help of the Lebanese military (i.e. read government here).
Hezbollah has decided that it deserves more representation in the government since it feels that it controls most of southern Lebanon.
So proportionally, Hezbollah is demanding the current allotment of seats in the legislator be realigned to reflect a 1/3 representation for Hezbollah.

Of course such a move would drastically change the way business is done in Lebanon. 1/3 power sharing for Shiite Hezbollah would in effect give them a "Veto" voting block all to themselves. (Currently Lebanon's legislature is divided 50/50 between Muslims and Christians.)
I'm sure you can see the current governments lack of enthusiasm in giving the Shiite minority more power than it already has.

And that sir is the gist of this all. Again, the ugly head of Shiite/Sunni separatism has arisen.

The Lebanese Civil War wasn't all that long ago, and the Lebanese people are not very excited to see it re-ignited by Hezbollah power moves.

But this is what's slowly taking place.

Some good news though.

Hezbollah, realizing the unpopularity of their most resent civil disobedience has called off for the moment the resent strikes.

That's a little ray of hope.

You forgot to mention the Sunni Lebanese, the Maronite Lebanese and most other Christians, the Druze Lebanese, the majority of Lebanon's Arab neighbours and Turkey.

Hezbollah has Syria, Shiite Iraq and Iran. None are solid allies.

Hezbollah has a real fight on their hands if "The party of God" plans on bringing Hell to Lebanon again.

Salaams

BB

Good catch Mr. Bob.

This is yet another delicate web of problems facing Lebanon today.

So much diversity and no solution for living together in peace.

You make a good point, Bob. This is the reason why the thieves in the U.S. are able to exploit this internal differences and launch the murdering campaigns what have kill over 1000 Lebonese.

But thanks to Hezballah, the next time the thieves in Israel bring hell to the Lebonese people, I am sure Hezballah will return the favor just as they did in the last murdering campaigns the thieves in Israle have perpatrated.

I wish you to have free press, freedem and liberation to understand that with hate and anger both sides will loose.

But the worse lost is to never touch freedom of tought, the wisdem to criticize yourself, ask first if I was ok. If I did the best not to get into this sittuation. Don't let your rulers and preachers govern you with hate and fear the enemy is not what they want you to think. You deserve more than that. You deserve peace.

Wish you a lovely day.

Jewish.

Hello Jewish,

I like to thank you for your sincere post and your promotion of freedom for both the Jewish and the victims of robbery in Palestine and the Jewish people who had been used as humanshield within the robbery center of Israel.

We all wish to have free press and liberation to understand that as long as the thieves within the Israel robbery center continue to rob and kill the natives of Palestine, we all going to suffer as human beings.  I hope those of you good Jewish people learn to help all of us dismantle the robbery center of Israel and help discourage robbery and encourage the thieves to return stolen land to the natives and learn to live with the natives peacefully.

Reading your post, it brings all of us hope that someday those of you who are peaceful will  learn to deal with the thieves that made up of mostly Jewish in Palestine.  The enemy of the your people are not the natives in Palestine who the thieves are killing everyday, but the thieves who built the robbery center of Israel that had so far cause great suffering to not just the natives but all people in the Arab world.

Song