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Thread: What After The Ceasefire?


Permlink Replies: 20 - Last Post: Aug 29, 2006 4:10 PM by: zeinab1408
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What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 14, 2006 12:49 PM
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What After The Ceasefire?

Hope returned to thousands of displaced Lebanese as they returned back to their abode hours after a UN ceasefire to end the Israeli aggression against Lebanon.

But immediately after the 0500 GMT,deadline, Israeli soldiers fired on a group they said were militants and also maintained that it would continue to maintain an air and sea blockade of Lebanon.

Can this be succesful? Who should be responsible for those civilians who lost their lives? Should olmert be arraigned for criminal charges? What after the Cease- Fire? Have your say now....



av


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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 15, 2006 12:35 PM   in response to: :)) in response to: :))
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Well, it's a moments breather to dig "deeper trenches" and prepare for another onslaught by the mason(also known as BEAST) driven zionist jews. Of all the religious nations, the one nation that's easily swayed by the"BEAST" are some of the children of Israel.

Wealth,power and the implementation of Anti G-d behaviour are the objectives here.Obviously, there is damage suffered in our ranks. We need to help repair this damage with our love and sympathy for our Sisters and Brothers in faith. We need to offer our hand of kindness and words of consolement, our prayer for protection and strength and our material and influential wealth to keep the unbelieving forces(Shaytaan,the BEAST and all their followers) as far away as possible. Our success is not based on being victorious in the eye of people. It is to please Allaah ta'aala and show Him that we are seeking His mercy.

I think we should forget about expecting political justice. It is our G-d given right to protect our Faith,Families and possessions. Allah ta'aala shall provide the strength and means.

MarieEdwards

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 15, 2006 6:51 PM   in response to: :)) in response to: :))
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What a paradox world! Israel should be disarmed after all the death, misery and destruction it has caused, and it is still causing in Gaza - and not Hezbollah.
 
Marie Edwards, New York


Bennite


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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 15, 2006 8:30 PM   in response to: MarieEdwards in response to: MarieEdwards
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And the israeli leaders,along with the bush beast should be arrested.

songyang

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 19, 2006 7:59 PM   in response to: Bennite in response to: Bennite
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And the israeli leaders,along with the bush beast should be arrested.

Anyone who truelly want to solve the problem in the Middle East will agree with this statement.  If we are able to arrest the leaders of the theives in Israel and U.S. that constantly murder people on a regular basis, we would be able to solve the problem in the Middle East right away.

To bad, we let the theive roaming around for too long.  This theives belong in jail, not on the street.



nasimcologne

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 16, 2006 8:23 AM   in response to: MarieEdwards in response to: MarieEdwards
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its not only a paradoxie but a very foolish world. as kids we use to say,who has the regie in his hands, let the game go on- a world full of fools, they let innocent people die and then talk about peace. i wonder, if the israelis and the hisbollas both of them realize, what they have done, by killing people with their weapons. for whom was it useful and for whom harmful cnn and bbc are analysing in their reports the root cause suicide bombers planing a plane boom in the air but have forgotten the aftermath of this useless war. no body is feeling guilty, neither the jews of israel nor the shia community amongst the hisbollas. some say the hisbollas provocated the israelis, and some say that the israelis took the captive of two israelis soldier as the initiative and they had to response by killing so many innocent lives. this seems more deporable and to bring this case to the international court for justice to punish the generals and ministers of israeli cabinet usa is protecting the invaders and murderers and calling others as terrorists, on the other hand they also had the right to defend their country from infiltrators. so where is the justification. bush is also a criminal, blair even more and the top officials of the givt of israel, if the western politics is against hisbolla and provacating iran and syria for a war, nothing will benefit them, but more chaos will happen, more hatracy. think more local and act global.

hindii


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Don’t be fooled by Israeli acceptance of cease fire
Posted: Aug 15, 2006 11:02 PM   in response to: :)) in response to: :))
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'Cease-fire is a secret weapon of Israel.When the world conscience demanded an end to the slaughter of innocents, Israel presented an ultimatum via its allied superpower, the US, to wit: If you wish us to cease killing, please, do our job for us, disarm the resistance, embargo their supply of weapons, recolonize Lebanon, so that when we shall be able to resume the war, Lebanon will fall into our hands like ripe fruit.'

writes Israel Shamir a leading Russian Israeli intellectual, writer, translator and journalist.

abuuomar


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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 19, 2006 4:43 PM   in response to: :)) in response to: :))
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What a complete turnaround of fortunes…

 

1967….Israel defeats the Arab armies in 6 days.

 

2006…Israel fails to destroy Hezb Allah but still manages to violate cease-fire 6 times in 6 days.

 

In the meantime the victims of Hurricane Katrina are wondering if Hezb Allah can help them in rebuilding New Orleans. Sure they may not be your average goody-two-shoes-run-of-the-mill-Judeo-Christian-Fascists but at least they’re not FEMA nor are they George W. Bush with his  empty promises.

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 19, 2006 5:19 PM   in response to: abuuomar in response to: abuuomar
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What will happen? Hezballa and its minions will probably have learened nothing. Their desire for the destruction of Israel will again lead them to provocation; cross border raids, missles, suicide bombers. What did they achieve this time? Maybe they showed they had some modern tactics. Big deal. They will always be behind the curve. They might not be destroyed, but certainly anyone in their area suffered the destruction of war. But hey, they were democratically elected, right?? The voters knew what they were getting into, right ?? And the morons on this board who think Israel wants land up to the Litani river should remember that as soon as Egypt signed a peace treaty, every inch of land has been returned to them. And there have been no cross border hostilities in almost 20 years. Israeli tourists go to Egypt and visa versa. Something wrong with that?

Perhaps you should view this clip from Al-Jazeera TV.


http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=nul

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 19, 2006 7:56 PM   in response to: gellero in response to: gellero
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What will happen? Hezballa and its minions will probably have learened nothing.

No, it is not true, Hezballah have learn a lot since the theives started to murder the Lebonese in a massive scale.  Members in Hizballah may have consider keep the theives in Israel under control from their murder and robbery operation now will understand why the hardliners want to destroy that robbery centers in Israel.

Their desire for the destruction of Israel will again lead them to provocation; cross border raids, missles, suicide bombers. What did they achieve this time? Maybe they showed they had some modern tactics. Big deal. They will always be behind the curve.

It is everyone's desire to make sure that the theives in
Israel will not able to rob anyone or any country  in the area freely without consequences.  No matter what the Lebonese militia do, the theives in Israel team up with Bush and his co-robbers always constantly find a way to kill Lebonese in a massive scale to scare them into submission so they can be robbed and enslave and killed.  So your argument that Hizballah's provoke the murders campaign against the Lebonese people is flaw and sent the wrong message to the theives. Theives will always be theives, and murder is what they are good at, so I am glad there resistance groups like Hizballah can inflicts deaths on the theives and their henchmen.  This is beneficial to us all who don't like being robbed by the theives of Israel and U.S.

 They might not be destroyed, but certainly anyone in their area suffered the destruction of war. But hey, they were democratically elected, right?? The voters knew what they were getting into, right ?? 

I hope Hizballah will remain strong and capable of inflicts death on the theives everytime the theives have an urge to murder people in a massive scale and have an urge to take something away from others that don't belong to them.  Many robbery ideologists like to argue that all Lebonese deserve to be killed because they love to be independents and love to have a government that actually care about them deserve to be murder by the theives is just evil talking to me.  Now those of you who still does not understand the degree of evil of the theives in Israel understand what kind of evil those that live around the theives in Israel have to deal with.



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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 19, 2006 11:34 PM   in response to: gellero in response to: gellero
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I viewed the clip, which I had seen before. The clip only proves one thing: Self-hating Arabs are not immune from the opportunistic temptations dangled in front of them by Neo-Cons and the Neo-Crusaders. Fifteen minutes of fame, bashing Islam, or Muslims or Arabs can be quite profitable for this extremely small group of Ann Coulter/ Daniel Pipes wannabes.

 

I have also read the commentaries of Wafa Sultan’s ideological contemporaries like Ibn Warraq, Fouad Ajami, Joseph Farah, and Ali Sina who together contribute to body of rhetoric that needs to be protected from extinction by some form ‘endangered species act’.

 

These are the darlings of the Judeo- Christian-Neo-Cons-Neo-Crusaders- Fascists who are relied on to parrot the talking points of their masters in Washington to perpetuate the lies so as to ensure public support for policies that are simply not working.

 

What is even more troubling is that the Bush administration is relying more and more on Islamophobic language which is replete with references to the ‘murderous ideology of Islamic radicals’, 'Islamic radicalism', 'militant jihadism', 'Islam-Fascism', or the 'Islamic Caliphate’.

 

 

Zbigniew Brezinsky, National Security advisor under President Carter says such phraseology can have unintended consequences. Instead of mobilizing moderate Muslims to stand by America, the repetitive refrain about Islamic terrorism might not only offend moderate Muslims but eventually contribute to a perception that the campaign against terrorism is also a campaign against Islam as a whole ...i.e. a Modern Day Crusade.

Peace/Salaam/Shalom



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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 20, 2006 11:21 AM   in response to: abuuomar in response to: abuuomar
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Soyngyang............Israel signed treaties with Egypt and Jordan. And there are no hostilities. Lebanon could do the same. Something wrong with that?? Or do you want perpetual war (which you don't ever have to experience) fought by ideologues?? Peace is negotiated. East Prussia used to be Germany. Now it is Russia and Poland. So what. They live in peace.

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 20, 2006 11:24 AM   in response to: gellero in response to: gellero
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There will never be peace under zionism.

gellero


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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 20, 2006 11:28 AM   in response to: Bennite in response to: Bennite
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PROVE IT.

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 20, 2006 11:59 AM   in response to: gellero in response to: gellero
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SINCE THE JEWS RECEIVED A HOMELAND, WAR AFTER WAR--EXPANSION--AFTER EXPANSION. VIOLATION AFTER VIOLATION.

Besides, people as far right as you are, have never been a friend of the jew.

As Jesse Jackson  once said, 'Judaism is a gutter religion.'



songyang

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 20, 2006 2:45 PM   in response to: Bennite in response to: Bennite
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Mel Gibson is right when he said, "Jews is the major cause of war in the world".  Jews is a religion of Satan, that's why they can't stand Jesus Christ and they have to murder him.  Today, these Jews had not change much, you gave them weapons and powers they are going to do what they do best, murder, murder, murder, and robbery.

gellero


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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 20, 2006 11:26 AM   in response to: gellero in response to: gellero
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By the way....I find your rants amusing. But it is spelled 'THIEVES'

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 24, 2006 4:52 PM   in response to: gellero in response to: gellero
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My dear confused Zionist propogandist,

 

Why do you reply to me but address Soyngyang’s posting???

 

In any event it matters not whether Israel signed treaties with Egypt and Jordan, the simple fact of the matter is that they have not shown any signs of sincere desire for peace with the Palestinians.

 

Until they agree to abide by UN resolution 242 which was adopted unanimously by the Security Council on November 22, 1967, there can be no JUSTICE for the Palestinian people, and without JUSTICE there can be no meaniningful PEACE. 

 

Israel, the Zionist occupying Power, continues to commit war crimes, State terrorism and systematic human rights violations against the Palestinian people under its occupation. In waging this vicious military campaign, the Israeli occupying forces continue to kill and wound civilians, destroy properties and impose and inflict collective punishments on the Palestinian people on a daily basis.

 

The crimes of the Zionist State of Israel against the Palestinians that cry out for JUSTICE include:

 

1.    War Crimes

2.    Crimes Against Humanity

3.    Genocide

4.    Destruction of Infrastructure

5.    Mass detentions without charge or trial

6.    Targeting of civilians

7.    Bulldozing of homes

8.    Burning of crops

9.    Extrajudicial Assassinations

10.           Restricted movement

11.           Collective Punishment

12.           Blockades

13.           Economic, Political and Social Strangulation

14.           Deportations

15.           Ethnic Cleansing

16.           Terrorism and Occupation

 

Peace/Salaam/Shalom.



songyang

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 19, 2006 7:41 PM   in response to: :)) in response to: :))
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The fact that the theives said that even after the ceasefire to save their face for losing, they reserve the right to kill Lebonese and block Lebonese air and sea ports.  I wouldn't call this ceasefire. This show who the theives really are, and this is the reason why any military group whether it is Hizaballah or others that manage to deter the theives in Israel's desire to murder the Lebonese in a massive scale must remain armed and ready for the next robbery and murder operations from the theives in Israel and Bush and his co-robbers.



malayluvintifada

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 22, 2006 12:36 AM   in response to: :)) in response to: :))
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salamz.....

ceasefire will never ever success at middle east...

isreal is a terrorist state that will never ever to obey international law as well as UN resolution for ceasefire...

israel will find a lot of reasons for them for not obey ceasefire....it is because they already lost at the 1st round war....and now they are ready for the 2nd round of war with Hezbollah....

and now what Hezbollah gotta do now is get ready for the 2nd round battle...don't ever ever believe that israel will obey the ceasefire....

keep guarding your boundary from being attack by israelis commando....

keep fighting in the name of ALLAH...and all of you will be success...

ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!



zeinab1408

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Re: What After The Ceasefire?
Posted: Aug 29, 2006 4:10 PM   in response to: :)) in response to: :))
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Isreal has a long history in breaking promises and agreements. Ceasefire has benefited the Lebanese people, but it is a temporary solution. Political efforts have to be exerted to force Isreal to respect the ceasefire and to stop the Isreali threats to Lebanon. Arab and Muslim politicians must unify their efforts to reach this aim. Also the Arab lawyers should call for the trial of the Isreali leaders who committed crimes in Lebanon and obliging Isreal to pay for destruction it caused there.


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