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Thread: Malaysia's PAS… A Comeback?
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by: Saladin
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Malaysia's PAS… A Comeback?
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Mar 3, 2008 9:34 AM
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Three opposition parties are challenging the ruling National Coalition in Malaysia's March 8 snap elections. The Parti Islam Se Malaysia (PAS), one of them, has seen a major face-lift before the polls, dropping a demand for an Islamic state in multi-ethnic Malaysia and fielding more youth and women candidates, including a non-Muslim. Do you think this would be enough for PAS, which suffered a humiliating defeat in the 2004, to make a comeback?
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Re: Malaysia's PAS… A Comeback?
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Mar 5, 2008 9:05 PM
in response to:
Ibrahim1982
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Audhubillahiminashaytaanirajeem
Bismillairahmaaniraheem
Islam is founded on Tawhid (Onesess of God)
Democracy goes fundamentally against Tawhidul-Uloohiyyah (i.e. it is Shirk)
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Democracy goes fundamentally against Tawhidul Asmaa was Sifaat
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Democracy also fundamentally contradicts Surah Al-Fatihah (Chapter 1 of the Quran)
"EeyahkaNabudoo WaEeyakanastaeen"
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"YOU ALONE WE WORSHIP, and You alone we ask for help" (Quran Surah 1, Ayah 5)
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How?
Tawhid has 3 parts:
1) Tawhidur Raboobiyah (Belief in God as the Creator and Master of the Universe)
2) Tawhidul Uloohiyyah (This basically means we follow Allah's F'rd actions and avoid Haraam)
3) Tawhidul Asmaa was Sifaat (Belief in Allah's Names and Attributes)
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1) Tawhidur Raboobiyah (Belief in God as the Creator and Master of the Universe)
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ALL Muslims, Jews, Christians, and even Hindus believe in:
Tawhidur Rabooboyah (Belief in a SUPREME creator).
Christians do NOT believe Jesus created the universe. They believe THE FATHER did.
Hindu bleive in a SUPREME BEING: Vishnu
Even the Pagan arabs believed that Allaah was the GOD-HEAD. They did -not- deny this.
So where's the problem then?
WHAT makes Islam different? to all the religions and even Democracy?
The answer is in 2) and 3) above.
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2) Tawhidul Uloohiyyah
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Tawhid (Belief in the Oneness in Allah) ALSO MEANS:
OBEDIENCE -ONLY- to Allah's Law (i.e. following HIS Obligations and Avioding HIS Prohibition).
This means that Voting for a system of man-made Law, is not only haraam, it is Shirk.
It is ONLY allowed to VOTE in the Khilafah.
Otherwise not.
"But brother, we will always pass laws that conform with Islam!"
Even THIS too is haraam, because ESTABLISHING KHILAFAH is OBLIGATORY. Its method is OBLIGATORY.
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Voting for a government other than in a Khilafah is haraam.
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When Allah has told us Muslims to implement His law on Earth, and Has called that his Khilafah, who are
we to implement a "Democracy" or a "Republic" or a anything alse.
Is it any wonder that our enemies laugh at us!
Despite our vast numbers and resources, we cannot even defend our weak ones.
HOW can we defend our weak ones when we do NOT OBEY ALLAH and BECOME UNITED in a KHILAFAH?
HOW will he send his invisible forces to help us, like he did at Badr, when we insult him with
Shirk-Democracy-Man-Made-Law?
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Voting in a Democracy is like, praying Salah towards Tokyo, or the north pole.
It may LOOK Islamic, but it is UTTERLY pointless and NOT accepted by Allah.
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Tawhidul Uloohiyyah means OBEYing Allah, according to the method Allah has prescribed for us.
THAT means every fard action requires an ijtihaad to do it properly.
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TO BE A MUSLIM YOU MUST OBEY ALLAH, THAT is belief in Allah.
That is Tawhid.
(otherwise we are no different from the pagan arabs, or Jews and Christians)
THAT means NO DEMOCRACY:
YES elections (in a Khilafh)
YES Accountable government (in a khilafah)
NO man-made Law (not ever, it is shirk, it is kufr OUTRIGHT disbelief in Allah!)
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3) Tawhidul Asmaa was Sifaat (Belief in Allah's Names and Attributes)
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The Christians say Jesus is God (Astagfirullah!)
Giving a man the attributes or names of God is Shirk. It nagates Tawhid.
One of the Names of Allah is THE LAW GIVER (AL Kanooni)
IN a Democracy MAN takes on the role of THE LAW GIVER (Al Kanooni)
MAN decides what is lawful and prohibited.
THIS fundamentally, diametrically, absolutely, completely and Utterly,
NULLIFIES TAWHID ul Asmaa was Sifaa.
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Democracy is the same as a Muslim saying Jesus is the Son of Allah! (Astagfirullah)
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in Fact it is worse
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in a Democracy man is saying I AM THE SON OF ALLAH, I AM AL-KANOONI! (Astagfirullah)
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in a Democracy man is saying I AM THE SON OF ALLAH, I AM AL-KANOONI! (Astagfirullah)
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in a Democracy man is saying I AM THE SON OF ALLAH, I AM AL-KANOONI! (Astagfirullah)
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in a Democracy man is saying I AM THE SON OF ALLAH, I AM AL-KANOONI! (Astagfirullah)
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in a Democracy man is saying I AM THE SON OF ALLAH, I AM AL-KANOONI! (Astagfirullah)
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in a Democracy man is saying I AM THE SON OF ALLAH, I AM AL-KANOONI! (Astagfirullah)
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in a Democracy man is saying I AM THE SON OF ALLAH, I AM AL-KANOONI! (Astagfirullah)
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in a Democracy man is saying I AM THE SON OF ALLAH, I AM AL-KANOONI! (Astagfirullah)
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in a Democracy man is saying I AM THE SON OF ALLAH, I AM AL-KANOONI! (Astagfirullah)
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It is HARAAM to vote for such people.
It is Shirk to stand for elections to make man-made law, EVEN if IT AGREES WITH ALLAH'S LAW!!!
Those who stand for elections in a democracy are making a HUGE mistake.
Have not Hamas/Fatah done enough damage to the Palestinians unnecessarily?
Have not the FIS wasted their time in Algeria?
HOW MUCH BLOOD MUST BE SPILT BEFORE WE WAKE UP !?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
HOW MUCH O NOBLE UMMAH OF MUHAMMAD?
Democracy is a total, utter waste of time.
ONLY an elected, accountable, Caliphate can solve our problems, INDUSTRIALISE us, provide us with
SECURITY, DIGNITY, and the LOVE OF ALLAH we desperateely need.
For THAT we MUST OBEY ALLAH, and establish His State.
For THAT we MUST Obey ALLAH ALONE ! ! !
"EeyahkaNabudoo WaEeyakanastaeen"
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"YOU ALONE WE WORSHIP, and You alone we ask for help" (Quran Surah 1, Ayah 5)
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"EeyahkaNabudoo WaEeyakanastaeen"
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"YOU ALONE WE WORSHIP, and You alone we ask for help" (Quran Surah 1, Ayah 5)
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"EeyahkaNabudoo WaEeyakanastaeen"
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"YOU ALONE WE WORSHIP, and You alone we ask for help" (Quran Surah 1, Ayah 5)
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But they say there is some benefit in Democracy,
SURE.
And also in Alcohol. BUT there is greater EVIL.
Allah Knows Best
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Re: Malaysia's PAS… A Comeback?
Posted:
Mar 6, 2008 5:47 AM
in response to:
Ibrahim1982
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Bismillahirahmaaniraheem
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Democracy produces leaders like a "Rose in the Desert".
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It does not matter how Good the people in leadership are: They WILL become corrupted. IT is NOT the PEOPLE/Personalities who make the difference, what matters is:
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WHAT-THEY-"DO"-ONCE-THEY-GET-INTO-POWER.
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Largely Democracy just replace one "lame duck"/Warcriminal for another war-criminal.
Just watch America: Does ANYONE seriously believe McCain or Clinton will be ANY DIFFERENT in the EFFECT
of their actions???? Do THEY? NO!!!!
IT does NOT matter how sweet smelling the "Rose" is. The SYSTEM will destroy it.
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TO make real change we NEED A NEW SYSTEM
i.e. in our metaphor:
we need to irrigate the desert (establish the CAliphate)
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THAT is why we need to work OUTSIDE the current system!
WE NEED A NEW SYSTEM
(not just new people,
not just planting new "Roses" in the desert of Democracy
and wondering WHY these roses DIE)
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democracy: Elections, Accountable Government, One man - One Vote, Consultation
Democracy: Bombing poor defenceless people and stealing their oil or "Our oil lies under their Soil"
islam: Amabilmaaroofwanahianilmunkar (Enjoining the GOOD*, and forbidding the EVIL*)
Islam: The System that enforces this (Amabilmaaroofwanahianilmunkar) via the Caliphate.
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*GOOD here means everything Allah has MADE OBLIGATORY/recommended for Muslims to follow (e.g. be kind to
your parents, look after the orphan child etc)
*EVIL here means everything Allah has PROHIBITED for Muslims (e.g. invading poor defenceless people's
lands to steal their oil = Democracy)
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An example of the Caliphate's FIREPOWER: The "PEACE MISSILE"
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Now imagine the Caliphate finds the CURE FOR CANCER and AIDS:
The CAliphate then offers the CURE, FREE OF CHARGE to the people of Britain, France and the U.S.A.
Their governments block the medecine!
Imagine the outcry amongs their OWN people!
Booooooooooooooooo!
Boooooooo! to secularism
Boooooooo! to Democracy
Three Cheers for ISlaam!
No Nation in the world will be able to COMPETE with us.
IT will be the survival of the Fittest! (The one who can do the most Good!)
THE LEADERSHIP WILL BELONG TO ISLAM! inshaallah.
This is how Saladin won over Richard the Lion Heart (with medecine).
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THEN the "Desert of Democracy" will be replaced with the
"Irrigated Fields of Islam" AND WE WILL SEE MANY MANY ROSES insha-Allah! 
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Allah knows and you do not know
Allah Knows Best
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Re: Malaysia's PAS… A Comeback?
Posted:
Mar 7, 2008 7:47 AM
in response to:
Ibrahim1982
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I don't think so.But every Malaysian can assure that most people living in Kelantan will vote for them because of their 'Islamic' agenda.
But when in comes to politics in Malaysia,we might ask.Why isn't PAS the ruling party in Malaysia,despite the fact that 60% of the population are Muslims??
I am a Singaporean and we are well-updated about your coming elections.As Malay-Muslims,we read Berita Harian(Daily News),recently about the upcoming elections.
Lately,one of the PAS candidates issued a 'fatwa' that it's OK to bad-mouth their rival parties when it comes to a political level.
Back to their 'Islamic' agenda,one of them is to apply Hudud law.
Looking at these two scenarios,do you think that their approach is right?And do you believe that Hudud law is relevant in Malaysia's society?
You cannot simply assume that EVERY Mufti in Malaysia would vote for PAS.
Based on a political view,the Mufti of Perlis stated that one should vote the candidate and not the party,with conditions include having moral integrity etc.
Walluahualam.
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Re: Malaysia's PAS… A Comeback?
Posted:
Mar 8, 2008 12:59 PM
in response to:
Ibrahim1982
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Bismillahirahmaaniraheem
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PEACE Missile:
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FORGET THESE Silly Head "POLITICIANS"
INSTEAD:
Lets start at the grassroots!
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AUTOMATED Charity
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$5 (U.S.) per month to charity x 1 billion ("rich") people
= $5,000,000,000 per month
= $60,000,000,000 per year
= $600,000,000,000 over the next decade
Six hundred billion dollars for charity!
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IMAGINE!
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The KEY: AUTOMATED REGULAR charity
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is to use "Direct bank to charity" electronic payment.
In the UK this is known as "Direct Debit"
If charity "gives a man a fish"
Direct Debit "Teaches a man HOW to fish"
(because it allows charities to PLAN AHEAD)
HOw much is $5?
Fiiiive dollars.
Five.
So lets talk to our Imams at Friday prayers and tell them to announce this:
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TELL YOUR CONGREGATION TO DONATE $5 A MONTH each BY DIRECT DEBIT TO A CHARITY
OF THEIR OWN CHOICE!
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Contact the "Islamic TV Channels": Ask them to ANNOUNCE this idea.
Once we Muslims are doing this, contact the Christain Priests to tell THEIR congrations the same.
LEts talk to everyone we know!
Lets roll this out WORLDWIDE!
1 Billion water droplets and you have a TSUNAMI !!!
BOOOOM
The Peace missile has landed.
Allah knowns best
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