They have eyes,
 but they do not see

They have ears,
 but they do not hear

They have hearts,
 but they do not feel

They have brains,
 but they do not think

Salam,

I am new to this forum..I am new to Islam...And, at 62 years old, having been born in the U.S.A., I have seen this horror we are now facing un-folding all around me for many years...Now, that this planned genocide is being once again carried out, in the name of "freedom", it yet carries the poisoned passions of greed, bigotry, prejiduce, etc, etc, a  well known the story.....How they got to this place, why they are doing this, and how we interpret it, and percieve it, and go on in justice, and in peace, where we are able to...It is a complex matter...One that so pains me, so very deeply...Each day, I pray, that there can be a new beginning, with justice...And, I have complete faith, that someday there will be this greatness of life....But; we are not the ones who can form it, and do it in our time-frame...It will come from that which so graciously, and compassionately gave us life...But, I feel that we are being tested in some ways, to see of our hearts, our determination towards righeousness, and intellectual reasoning in this whole painful manner...We each have a place from where to contribute to the whole of our existance...We, yes, we, as a unified believing system and human example, must work and pray as we, yes we again, are meant and guided to...

  I do not come here, to intrude but to offer my feelings, and how we, might be able to enhance our lives with the help of one another...To share this sacred gift of Islam, is for me, in my life my greatest and last miricle bestowed upon  me...No one can ever know my love of our creator any better then he himself...He has blessed me with life, on this journey of his creation and pathway...I am thankful to be a part of this, as I am so very thankful for the reality of Islam...

  There is much that i can relate of their now present attitude of no ears, as you write...My ethnicity is very varied...And I am part/mostly Native American...The tribe I am affiliated is what people call Sioux, but we, to us, are Lakota...So, my ways of perceiving this history is from a new and opened perspective...One time a long time ago, a man with the same cowboy attitude, entered our terrtory, that we had signed a treaty for, and he was thinking to wipe us out; (sound familiar)...And, even his own scouts warned him, but he did not listen...At the end of the battle, women of another tribe, went in and pierced his ear-drums...This a symbol for not hearing! So you see, this "cowboy" attitude  has been around for a long time...And, as the U.N. did in '47, so did this government do to us...The setting up of Israel, was in reality, a "Declaration of Illegal Occupation", (of Palestine)...And, I think with research, in international law and in the by-laws of the U.N., it can be proven...A good bargining agent in International Court perhaps?..)for Palestine..)  We  have to work at every angle and investigate every known pathway to help our brothers and sisters...It is of my heart and soul that I pray for them....

Assalamualaikum

I always love to know about people who had found the true path and coming back into the folds of Allah's love. I hope more will follw suit.

May Allah bless you my dear.

Salam ikhwan

SZA

well exactly ... you catched the situation
but sooner or later , the situationwill change itself.
not because their charisma will wake up , coz i am sure that they dont have one , but coz of the shame , that they receive it.
anyway as always the arabics ministers just gave us their big supports by going out without any word, but we shall thank god coz it is like this , coz we thaught that they will blame us .

'the world' is silent because most of the 'the world' recognizes that Hamas initiated conflict with the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers, and Hezbollah exacerbated the situation  by kidnapping of Israeli soldiers.   So 'the world' can understand how people in Israel would want to defend themselves, and 'the world' recognizes that if they don't act swiftly, the soldiers will be brutally tortured to death (thank the scum in Iraq for teaching the world this lesson that they haven't forgotten) so 'the world' will wait and see if the whole situation can be defused by Hamas and Hezbollah simply giving up the four hostages.  That is all it would take to deescalate the situation, but noooooo, they can't do that! 

'the world' is silent because most of the 'the world' recognizes that Hamas initiated conflict with the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers, and Hezbollah exacerbated the situation  by kidnapping of Israeli soldiers.   So 'the world' can understand how people in Israel would want to defend themselves, and 'the world' recognizes that if they don't act swiftly, the soldiers will be brutally tortured to death (thank the scum in Iraq for teaching the world this lesson that they haven't forgotten) so 'the world' will wait and see if the whole situation can be defused by Hamas and Hezbollah simply giving up the four hostages.  That is all it would take to deescalate the situation, but noooooo, they can't do that

Many robbery ideologists have over used this arguments. This is false. The international community are not quiet about Israel murdering campaign. 

The only problem with the international community is that they are powerless.

The theives can only be stop by educational tactics.  I wish that the theives in Israel understand peaceful talks about their robbery, murdering, and kidnapping problem, but the facts is that they don't.  By killing and murdering the Israelis hitman is a public service, the faster the Jews learn that the better off for everybody will be.

Man what do you people want?

First Muslims say they don't want interference from the United Nations and the West. Then next they ask for help.

The last straw Bring them home now.....

Kandahar Tim Horton's fresh out of doughnuts

Updated Fri. Jul. 14 2006 9:14 AM ET

Canadian Press

Canada's soldiers in Kandahar say they can live with the oppressive heat, dust and exhaustion of fighting Taliban.

But they draw the line when they lose their doughnuts.

The Tim Horton's restaurant that opened at the Kandahar Air Field before Canada Day ran out of doughnuts on Thursday.

By Friday, the Timbits were gone, too.

Staff at the ''Timmies trailer,'' as it has become known, say they're hoping for a fresh batch of supplies soon, but were unable to say when they'd once again be making the soft, sweet treats.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060714/afghanistan_hortons_060714

How can our brave boys be expected to battle the Taliban with bellies void of doughnuts?. Do they have coffe at least? I suppose the new strawberry tarts are nice but fighting men need doughnuts and lots of them. Can't the Americans be convinced to divert one of their hercules aircraft to round the clock doughut delivery? Forget ammo! who needs it? If we have enough Tim Hortons we can fire day old timbits at them. That'll teach em. 

IB

OK...we need a favor from the UN and the West. Pls...pls...pls... bring home the trash/garbage/whatever you guys had left on our lands. The most disgusting garbage are the murderous zionist entity you created on our land, illegally.

Take them back home, wash them, and keep them for yourselves. We don't need this garbage. Pls...take them home.

We don't hate jews. We had lived with jews and christian for centuries in harmony in many parts of the world until today. During the brutal Spanish inquisition, both muslims and jews were victims. We help and protect each other.

But, zionism is racist, murderous, and evil ideology that no man could tolerate. If Israel wants recognition to existence, it must not exist as a zionist entity. Zionist entity does not deserve the right to exist, not only in Israel, but in any other part of the world. If this zionist entity were created on European land, the Europeans would also have to fight a long and brutal war with this entity...surely. It is just too disgusting for human society.

Remember the Sabra and Shatila massacre?

No one feels the fire other than those being burnt. 

The only way out is to fight back. There is no other way. The non-believers will just sit and watch the Muslims suffer and die. For those who have the hearts, they will go to the streets in their countries and request that the war be stopped. But that's all they can afford to do. Their leaders will not lift a hand to act upon the atrocities carried out by the biggest Terrorist Nation on earth now.

All Muslims must be ready, physically, mentally and spiritually to fight this war. Because this war is SATANIC in nature.

Not everyone in Lebanon is a Muslim. You should research things before you speak. There is a large Shiite population who are the majority, but there are also Christens and Sunni who participate in politics (unlike in other Muslim countries where Christians are not allowed to).

The Lebanon army is not getting involved for the main reason that they one do not have the capabilities to fight Israel, and to 70% of soldiers are Shiite and believe in Hezbollah's ideals. Also if they get involved it would legitimize all the damage Israel has done to Lebanon. Another thing is that Hezbollah does not want the government to have control of the nation. Strangely better military equipment then the regular army, given to them according to the United States by Iran and Syria has made Hezbollah a powerful force. These weapons have successfully reached most of Israel's cities.

                             By Technological Excellence!!!

Muslims lost power in Europe in 1452AD & all the scientific knowledge at the fall of Islamic State in Andalus, the Islamic power of the time & the repository of all the Islamic scientific knowledge & the inheriter of all the scientific knowledge developed by the previous Ommayad & Abbasyid Caliphates, it seems all that knowledge went off the Islamic System when they walked away from Granada leaving the scientific knowledge there, on which Europe built their renaissance. Muslims lost power in the Indian Subcontinental Peninsula in 1857AD at the fall of the Islamic Moghal State in Delhi, the Islamic power there. Muslims lost power in the Middle East in 1922 at the fall of the Islamic Ottomon Caliphate in Istanbul, the last Islamic power in the Middle East & Europe. It seems the last two did not focus on developing of significant scientific knowledge & technology.Since then Muslims have been coverless, powerless & representationless except through the secular systems designed to keep them powerless & without technology. The Mother of the Catastrophes was the catastrophic disabling of the Islamic Shoura Democracy System since 40H, which caused the Islamic system to be frozen in the time period when it was developed & the time worked against it becoming fossilized as the time passed because the system & the society did not interact & update itself (like the Jurispurdence sytem) & could not face the challenges thrownup against them by the new developments over time, & fell down on its own weight like a moth-eaten tree, or as a ringed mole when cutoff from the blood supply withers away. The land of the fallen Ottomen Caliphate in the Middle East was carved up into states by a secret Sykes-Picot agreement in 1915 which was officialized after the fall & to colonize the core world-geopolitical-area for the world-control after setting the agenda in the Basle Conference in 1895 & its execution by the 'Mother of All-Treachery': the Balfour Declaration in 1915 & the pursuing Balfour Act(Congress) in 1922 & Balfour Resolution(UN) in 1948 the invasion & colonization of the Palestine was officialized through the world-rigged systems & institutions. To implement these  policies with minimal resistence, 'cloak & dagger' policy was adopted which translated into "promise & dupe" until 2001 when 'with us' policy was added to it.

The renaissance gave the Europeans the technological edge by discovering the leverage of machines by the invention of the steam engine in 1760AD by James Watt, the start of the industrial revolution. They used the leverage of the machines to invade the world & colonize it by enslaving the other people by destroying their culture by eliminating their culture-bearers: the intelligentsia because they were the vanguard of the resistance against occupation, cornering their resources & weakening & starving them to oblivion by their occupying leverage by designing visible & invisible strangulations in their policies, procedures & systems & the peak of  it was in the New World where their 'champion of liberty' was shaped up & its civilization builtup on invasion, genocide & slavery. One cannot get good fruit out of a rotten tree. After independence, to insulate the decisions from the populace's criticism the policy of  'dupe'  was adopted which included the 'input' of information, deliberate 'disinformation' to strengthen the popularity of the decision & 'control & directing' of the public opinion upon will & 'deliberate uneducation' of the population in world geography & history, so the same policy of invasion, genocide & slavery could be continued under different 'fig leaf' pretexts, pretences,  labels & justifications without adverse reaction from the local populace who mattered, so the policy will stay. So the rest of the world is transparent to the policymakers as they donot matter. That's why one sees the opposite image of the east in the west. To protect the Trinity which is not revelation but an addition from being overpowered by the truth of Oneness of the Prevailing Revelation, the church had builtup an eleborate wall of lies, misinformation, disinformation, distortion & demonizing of the challenger over the centuries from the first encounter to the Crusade, the Colonization, the Orientalists,  & now the thinktank institutions to insulate their followers, lest they lose them to the Truth. This teasure-trove is very useful for the policy-makers to utilize it to further their aforesaid aims. That's why the western media always focuses on distortion, demonization & apostates. The Industrial Revolution lead to the rise of Capitalism as a means of necessity of financing, which ushered banking power, stock market power,  the insurance power, the shipping power  & the world commerce power which added to their capital & gave leverage to build military technology to use towards the aforesaid aims to corner more resources until all the world mines which produce metals to build special alloys needed to build  technology & transport crafts were cornered, all precious metals & stones mines were cornered & industrial chemical processes & mines were cornered & all other raw material sources & mines were cornered during the colonization. This needed manpower education & training instititutions which over the last two centuries have professionally honed. All this resultant power which has been endowed by God in the matter, systems & institutions the foundation of which was laid by Muslims but didnot pursue further & was handed to Europe when the left Granda  is the source of the Pharaonic arrogrance. All the world of mathematics, science & modern technology is based on the Islamic Numerals, which in the West are called Arabic Numerals, the Zero & decimal system developed by the Muslims. The Phoraonic arrogrance does not respect politeness or goodness, considered as weakness, that is their materialistic psychology. Vulgar language,although disapproved by God, is considered a trait of strength of personality. So people who deal with the west have to adopt that strategy to achieve the right objective, since the need obviates the prohibiton. So to get their rights, in the western parlance: Muslims have to 'fuckup' with the West as they have cornered all world institutions rigged to their benefit & to the exclusion of everyone else.  

You are very right. That is the very basic question. But how? For that you have to build your strength. To build strength you have to build right instituitions.               ...Continued to Part 2...

                             By Technological Excellence!!!

Muslims lost power in Europe in 1452AD & all the scientific knowledge at the fall of Islamic State in Andalus, the Islamic power of the time & the repository of all the Islamic scientific knowledge & the inheriter of all the scientific knowledge developed by the previous Ommayad & Abbasyid Caliphates, it seems all that knowledge went off the Islamic System when they walked away from Granada leaving the scientific knowledge there, on which Europe built their renaissance. Muslims lost power in the Indian Subcontinental Peninsula in 1857AD at the fall of the Islamic Moghal State in Delhi, the Islamic power there. Muslims lost power in the Middle East in 1922 at the fall of the Islamic Ottomon Caliphate in Istanbul, the last Islamic power in the Middle East & Europe. It seems the last two did not focus on developing of significant scientific knowledge & technology.Since then Muslims have been coverless, powerless & representationless except through the secular systems designed to keep them powerless & without technology. The Mother of the Catastrophes was the catastrophic disabling of the Islamic Shoura Democracy System since 40H, which caused the Islamic system to be frozen in the time period when it was developed & the time worked against it becoming fossilized as the time passed because the system & the society did not interact & update itself (like the Jurispurdence sytem) & could not face the challenges thrownup against them by the new developments over time, & fell down on its own weight like a moth-eaten tree, or as a ringed mole when cutoff from the blood supply withers away. The land of the fallen Ottomen Caliphate in the Middle East was carved up into states by a secret Sykes-Picot agreement in 1915 which was officialized after the fall & to colonize the core world-geopolitical-area for the world-control after setting the agenda in the Basle Conference in 1895 & its execution by the 'Mother of All-Treachery': the Balfour Declaration in 1915 & the pursuing Balfour Act(Congress) in 1922 & Balfour Resolution(UN) in 1948 the invasion & colonization of the Palestine was officialized through the world-rigged systems & institutions. To implement these  policies with minimal resistence, 'cloak & dagger' policy was adopted which translated into "promise & dupe" until 2001 when 'with us' policy was added to it.

The renaissance gave the Europeans the technological edge by discovering the leverage of machines by the invention of the steam engine in 1760AD by James Watt, the start of the industrial revolution. They used the leverage of the machines to invade the world & colonize it by enslaving the other people by destroying their culture by eliminating their culture-bearers: the intelligentsia because they were the vanguard of the resistance against occupation, cornering their resources & weakening & starving them to oblivion by their occupying leverage by designing visible & invisible strangulations in their policies, procedures & systems & the peak of  it was in the New World where their 'champion of liberty' was shaped up & its civilization builtup on invasion, genocide & slavery. One cannot get good fruit out of a rotten tree. After independence, to insulate the decisions from the populace's criticism the policy of  'dupe'  was adopted which included the 'input' of information, deliberate 'disinformation' to strengthen the popularity of the decision & 'control & directing' of the public opinion upon will & 'deliberate uneducation' of the population in world geography & history, so the same policy of invasion, genocide & slavery could be continued under different 'fig leaf' pretexts, pretences,  labels & justifications without adverse reaction from the local populace who mattered, so the policy will stay. So the rest of the world is transparent to the policymakers as they donot matter. That's why one sees the opposite image of the east in the west. To protect the Trinity which is not revelation but an addition from being overpowered by the truth of Oneness of the Prevailing Revelation, the church had builtup an eleborate wall of lies, misinformation, disinformation, distortion & demonizing of the challenger over the centuries from the first encounter to the Crusade, the Colonization, the Orientalists,  & now the thinktank institutions to insulate their followers, lest they lose them to the Truth. This teasure-trove is very useful for the policy-makers to utilize it to further their aforesaid aims. That's why the western media always focuses on distortion, demonization & apostates. The Industrial Revolution lead to the rise of Capitalism as a means of necessity of financing, which ushered banking power, stock market power,  the insurance power, the shipping power  & the world commerce power which added to their capital & gave leverage to build military technology to use towards the aforesaid aims to corner more resources until all the world mines which produce metals to build special alloys needed to build  technology & transport crafts were cornered, all precious metals & stones mines were cornered & industrial chemical processes & mines were cornered & all other raw material sources & mines were cornered during the colonization. This needed manpower education & training instititutions which over the last two centuries have professionally honed. All this resultant power which has been endowed by God in the matter, systems & institutions the foundation of which was laid by Muslims but didnot pursue further & was handed to Europe when the left Granda  is the source of the Pharaonic arrogrance. All the world of mathematics, science & modern technology is based on the Islamic Numerals, which in the West are called Arabic Numerals, the Zero & decimal system developed by the Muslims. The Phoraonic arrogrance does not respect politeness or goodness, considered as weakness, that is their materialistic psychology. Vulgar language,although disapproved by God, is considered a trait of strength of personality. So people who deal with the west have to adopt that strategy to achieve the right objective, since the need obviates the prohibiton. So to get their rights, in the western parlance: Muslims have to 'fuckup' with the West as they have cornered all world institutions rigged to their benefit & to the exclusion of everyone else.  

You are very right. That is the very basic question. But how? For that you have to build your strength. To build strength you have to build right instituitions.               ...Continued to Part 2...

                             By Technological Excellence!!!

Muslims lost power in Europe in 1452AD & all the scientific knowledge at the fall of Islamic State in Andalus, the Islamic power of the time & the repository of all the Islamic scientific knowledge & the inheriter of all the scientific knowledge developed by the previous Ommayad & Abbasyid Caliphates, it seems all that knowledge went off the Islamic System when they walked away from Granada leaving the scientific knowledge there, on which Europe built their renaissance. Muslims lost power in the Indian Subcontinental Peninsula in 1857AD at the fall of the Islamic Moghal State in Delhi, the Islamic power there. Muslims lost power in the Middle East in 1922 at the fall of the Islamic Ottomon Caliphate in Istanbul, the last Islamic power in the Middle East & Europe. It seems the last two did not focus on developing of significant scientific knowledge & technology.Since then Muslims have been coverless, powerless & representationless except through the secular systems designed to keep them powerless & without technology. The Mother of the Catastrophes was the catastrophic disabling of the Islamic Shoura Democracy System since 40H, which caused the Islamic system to be frozen in the time period when it was developed & the time worked against it becoming fossilized as the time passed because the system & the society did not interact & update itself (like the Jurispurdence sytem) & could not face the challenges thrownup against them by the new developments over time, & fell down on its own weight like a moth-eaten tree, or as a ringed mole when cutoff from the blood supply withers away. The land of the fallen Ottomen Caliphate in the Middle East was carved up into states by a secret Sykes-Picot agreement in 1915 which was officialized after the fall & to colonize the core world-geopolitical-area for the world-control after setting the agenda in the Basle Conference in 1895 & its execution by the 'Mother of All-Treachery': the Balfour Declaration in 1915 & the pursuing Balfour Act(Congress) in 1922 & Balfour Resolution(UN) in 1948 the invasion & colonization of the Palestine was officialized through the world-rigged systems & institutions. To implement these  policies with minimal resistence, 'cloak & dagger' policy was adopted which translated into "promise & dupe" until 2001 when 'with us' policy was added to it.

The renaissance gave the Europeans the technological edge by discovering the leverage of machines by the invention of the steam engine in 1760AD by James Watt, the start of the industrial revolution. They used the leverage of the machines to invade the world & colonize it by enslaving the other people by destroying their culture by eliminating their culture-bearers: the intelligentsia because they were the vanguard of the resistance against occupation, cornering their resources & weakening & starving them to oblivion by their occupying leverage by designing visible & invisible strangulations in their policies, procedures & systems & the peak of  it was in the New World where their 'champion of liberty' was shaped up & its civilization builtup on invasion, genocide & slavery. One cannot get good fruit out of a rotten tree. After independence, to insulate the decisions from the populace's criticism the policy of  'dupe'  was adopted which included the 'input' of information, deliberate 'disinformation' to strengthen the popularity of the decision & 'control & directing' of the public opinion upon will & 'deliberate uneducation' of the population in world geography & history, so the same policy of invasion, genocide & slavery could be continued under different 'fig leaf' pretexts, pretences,  labels & justifications without adverse reaction from the local populace who mattered, so the policy will stay. So the rest of the world is transparent to the policymakers as they donot matter. That's why one sees the opposite image of the east in the west. To protect the Trinity which is not revelation but an addition from being overpowered by the truth of Oneness of the Prevailing Revelation, the church had builtup an eleborate wall of lies, misinformation, disinformation, distortion & demonizing of the challenger over the centuries from the first encounter to the Crusade, the Colonization, the Orientalists,  & now the thinktank institutions to insulate their followers, lest they lose them to the Truth. This teasure-trove is very useful for the policy-makers to utilize it to further their aforesaid aims. That's why the western media always focuses on distortion, demonization & apostates. The Industrial Revolution lead to the rise of Capitalism as a means of necessity of financing, which ushered banking power, stock market power,  the insurance power, the shipping power  & the world commerce power which added to their capital & gave leverage to build military technology to use towards the aforesaid aims to corner more resources until all the world mines which produce metals to build special alloys needed to build  technology & transport crafts were cornered, all precious metals & stones mines were cornered & industrial chemical processes & mines were cornered & all other raw material sources & mines were cornered during the colonization. This needed manpower education & training instititutions which over the last two centuries have professionally honed. All this resultant power which has been endowed by God in the matter, systems & institutions the foundation of which was laid by Muslims but didnot pursue further & was handed to Europe when the left Granda  is the source of the Pharaonic arrogrance. All the world of mathematics, science & modern technology is based on the Islamic Numerals, which in the West are called Arabic Numerals, the Zero & decimal system developed by the Muslims. The Phoraonic arrogrance does not respect politeness or goodness, considered as weakness, that is their materialistic psychology. Vulgar language,although disapproved by God, is considered a trait of strength of personality. So people who deal with the west have to adopt that strategy to achieve the right objective, since the need obviates the prohibiton. So to get their rights, in the western parlance: Muslims have to 'fuckup' with the West as they have cornered all world institutions rigged to their benefit & to the exclusion of everyone else.  

You are very right. That is the very basic question. But how? For that you have to build your strength. To build strength you have to build right instituitions.               ...Continued to Part 2...

Your missing a point here Muslims invaded other people's land and took it by force when these people were weak.

Making Muslims the occupiers.

When they weak people got strong again and recovered the knowledge their ancestors created and which Muslims only preserved. Of course they were not the only ones that preserved this knowlege; other people did as well.

They pushed out the Muslim occupiers and invaded Muslim territories later on.

Even to this day many Islamic nations employ laws that treat non-muslims significantly unfairly and give Muslims the advantage. While Muslims strangely receive much better treatment in the non-Islamic nations.

I would love to see dhimmi and other Islamic laws applied to Muslims so they can learn how it feels to live under their own feet. To have their spirits and wills broken. To give up and accept the life of an under dog unless they convert to Islam.

Isn't that strange?  That's exactly what the US did in Iraq.  Funny thing, though, every Muslims I know thinks that was horrible for the US to go into Iraq and take the horrid Saddam down. So you praise Muslims for going into countries and helping others from their oppressive leaders, but when we do, it's just horrible.  I'm shocked!  Not.  This is your history and everyone else's seems to be different, especially the Hindus in India.  Why did Muslims take some parts of Europe, and why would they have taken it all had they not been stopped?

The only difference in the USA and Europe, the west, and the Muslims is that the USA and Europe doesn't take your countries and rule over you and make you 2nd class citizens, which is exactly what Muslims would try to do to us if you even had half a chance. Every one of you can sit and tell yourselves you're better than us, but the truth is that you are must worse. Any time you make people 2nd class citizens, you're going to either have a gov treat them badly or the 1st class citizens are going to treat them badly. That's just a fact. Muslims in today's world, in many of your countries, you treat Christians horrible and have ran almost all of them away from their homeland. So I cannot even imagine how you would treat them if you did have any power. It would be bad, I am positive. Jews and Hindus say in their history that Muslims always say they treated Jews, Christians, etc., good, but the truth is that they did not.  I am sure in a few countries along the way, there may have been a time period when all were living fairly peacefully.  I remember reading in Europe's history when the Ottoman Empire was the eyesore of that part of the world, Europe had to constantly jump into them for treating the Christians really bad.

Face it, we're all pigs.  There isn't a country or empire that ever got to the top by being saint. There isn't one that stayed at the top by being saints. Muslims are even worse than Europe, the US, or Israel. We all actually want you to prosper, so you'll be happy and leave us alone.  Yes, we really are that stupid. Europe and the US think that as long as people aren't poor, they will not try to attack others. Heck, you don't even have any power and you're attacking us.  So I would really hate to see what would happen if you did have any power. I am positive the whole world would be in a huge war until you ruled over everybody with Islam.

That is why the West is so precocupied with the perspective of Iran having nukes:Iran´s president is as much of a cannibal as you.

Only a total savage can think of using nukes in such a small area as the Middle East.Allah will not let the nuclear weapons fall in the hands of such  vile persons as Ahmadinejjad and you.

Just think(if you know what it means);using the atomic weapon on Syria "to protect it" would mean death for millions of Syrians, Lebanese, Israelis, Jordans,Palestinians

and Egyptians.You are ready to sacrifice millions of Muslim lives to kill 10 Jews.I am against it.

Who is better Muslim? 

So,Buckingham,Blair,Prescott,Balfour,Holmes are jewish surnames?So,Sherlock Holmes was a Jew?

I wish to provide a list of the authors of the  most amusing posts i have read  at this forum until now.

av.

It would be funny if it was not so terrifying sad.

He is not joking, he probably believes this to be true.  

My surname was in there and I assure you it ain't Jewish. You don't have a clue what you're blabbin about.

IB

"The problem in the mid east will never end untill an Arab country gets nuclear weapons  or a very strong military.  Israel and the u.s. will simply stay away from bombing them. Granted, they may still fight amoungst themselves to a certain degree, but one country will hesitate to attack the other, knowing nukes might come right back at them. If Iran had nukes and was protecting Syria or Lebanon..you can well rest assured Israel would not be bombing them or the Palestinians either. The u.s. would not be threatening Iran and Syria either. The only thing that keeps the u.s. from bombing N. Korea is, they suspect N.K  have nukes. Granted they may not reach the u.s. mainland, but the u.s. know, they can take them outside the international watter limit and blast away from subs. or ships. And besides I think the u.s. is a little bit nervous to have a war on Chinas doorstep. China may well intervent.  But when you look at the situation in the mid east and world in general...most of the problem stems from the u.s. poking there nose in other countrys business. They support Israel in billions of $$$ a year to buy military equipment.. Israel is a recipent of foreighn aid. They cant support themselves. Technically speaking.... Iran and N.Korea have as much right to nuclear energy as the u.s. or any other country does."

Absolutely correct analysis.

Best Regards

BMZ 

Of course we would all be bombing them if they keep on bombing us as they have been for many years now.  Just because they're weaker then us, certainly doesn't give them the right to bomb someone and then expect not to be hit back.  Hezbollah sent a rocket into Israel and kidnapped their soldier and killed others. Any country in this world would have retaliated. Unfortunately for the Lebanonese people, Hezbollah was supposed to disarm, according to a UN resolution and agreement with Israel, and they did not.  The UN was supposed to disarm them if they didn't disarm, but of course, the weenie UN would never follow through on anything. They are a joke! No wonder Israel never follows those UN resolutions Muslims are constantly complaining about - if no one else does, why should they have to?  I am sure the Palestinians are no different than Hezbollah. 

I do feel for the Lebanonese people...at least some of them, anyway. The ones that didn't have anything to do with Hezbollah.  We'll all help them rebuild their country.  Obviously, Hezbollah was a threat to many in the world and many countries were glad to see Israel do what they're doing. I was shocked by the non-response from the normal ones that constantly give poor Israel a hard time.  Many were tickled to death to have Israel do this hard work for them. From what everyone says, it would have happened sooner or later. As usual, others have to do the UN's job for them. Hezbollah made a huge mistake.

That is a very central point you have raised there Karen, changing the world starts with ones selves and identification with the other or “walking in the others shoes” is the only way to reach correct understanding.

I do not know how this concept is understood in Islam – but it is in my view the most important concept in Christianity.

The concept is very central in Buddhism, they often seem to have a more psychological starting point than Christianity and can throw light on such concept that I at least find inspiring. They have very good explanations of why this is important and also why it is so difficult and even techniques to improve you ability in this area. I have read Buddhist scholars that say this concept is enough, practice that and you are in no need of other practices – and I believe they have a point.

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The murdering of women & children in peaceful Lebanon by the sudden unprovoked unjustified  barbaric airbombing  by the stoneage evil zionists to destroy a peaceful country is the ultimate war crime. Why the world is not taking immediate action to bring the evil nazis to book immediatley!!!! NOW!!!!!! It is 21st century, we are not living in dark ages, are we? Where are the human rights gone? Where is UN? Is this the ugly face of the civilized west? To genocide the weak? Or is this barbarity the true colour of the west's democracy? Why do they hate us? Because we want to be independent? Is this a crime? Unless they want to be kicked out of the region like misbehaving mad dogs? So we can build & live in peace. Or is it another one of their deliberate calculated miscalcualtion after Balfour & WMD? Is it the beginning of their end? May God have mercy on the martyrs of Lebanon.

Hezbollah was supposed to disarm and they didn't do it. It was the UN's job to disarm them by force if they did not follow through with the agreement. Israel followed through with their end of the bargain.  Hezbollah sent a rocket into Israel, then kidnapped a soldier and killed others. Any country in the world would have attacked them.  I guess Israel thought that while they're at it, they would just disarm them as they were supposed to do.  It was very obvious to me that almost the entire whole world was very happy that Israel was doing this hard work for them.  Obviously, Hezbollah must be a very big threat to the world. 

And by the way, journalists have noted seeing women and children standing on bridges just waiting there for the Israelis to come and bomb the bridges so civilians would be killed, too.  Hezbollah hides their weapons in apartment complexes and civilians' homes because they know the west and Israel doesn't like to hurt civilians. But Hezbollah and other terrorist groups like hiding behind women and children and making certain they are killed in the fights to make the other side look bad.  As long as we feel sorry for them and jump onto the other side for killing civilians, they will keep doing it. Journalists also noted families celebrating and congratulating each other for their family members dying as martyrs.  So if you do not care anymore about these people's lives than that, why should we?  I think it's sad and disgusting, and the lowest thing I have ever heard in the life, but if they do not want to live, I guess that's up to them. Unlike the Muslim terrorists, Israel warned the people to leave.

You cant be serious... Muslims hate Israel because it's free? I dont think so.. They hate Israel because they are stealing Palestine land. In Lebanon right this minute, countries are evacuating there citizens from there, because Israel is just bombing and killing  everyone in sight. Israel wealthy? haha.. They are poorer than Iraqis..'were' befor sanctions and invasion..Near all Arab countries are much wealthier, with there huge oil reserves. Israel is a recipent of foreighn aid.. They couldnt pay there own way, even without the military expenses. But all in all the u.s. pumps billions of $$ in foreighn aid into Israel every year. I dont think anyone is jealous of the Israeli economy.

Gives muslims a good whipping? I think the muslims do a great job fighting back with really no weapons.. If Israel had no weapons and muslims had them all, the jews would be whining surrender in mass, like they did in ww2

My friend , You got it wrong. You would not want an uinvited guest to take over you house. Would you? They hate themselves. Now. Enough is enough. The apartheid regime of the cold war era like the one in Rhodesia is out of date like dodo in an era of Globalization. So let it be replaced by Republic of Palestine where every one can leave in peace. It is the West who created it & it is the West who have to decide to dismantle it like Rhodesia. The ball is in their court. It is their full responsibility for all the murder in Palestine.

You have everything wrong.  First of all, Hezbollah send a rocket into Israel and then kidnapped a soldier and killed others. Any country in the world would have attacked them. Hezbollah was supposed to disarm and they never did.  Israel did what she was supposed to do, but Hezbollah/Lebanon did not.  They just gave Israel a reason to go in and disarm them as the UN should have already done when no one else would, but we all know the UN is too wimpy to follow through with anything they say.  I guess this is why the Israelis never follow the resolutions - because no one else does. Muslims seem to make all of these agreements, but they never follow through with them.  It's obvious that almost every country in the world was glad Israel was doing this, because it was going to happen sooner or later, anyway. Hezbollah must really be dangerous to many in the world.  They hide their weapons among the civilians, just as all terrorists do, and civilians try to get killed so they can be martyrs, trying to make whoever is fighting them look bad to the liberal extremists in the west.

As far as Israel being a poor country that is not successful, you have no idea how wrong you are. The US gets back every cent we give Israel. For one thing, Israel has to spend most of that money in the USA, giving about 50,000 Americans jobs.  Number 2, Israeli scientists are among the best in the entire world, and usually they have the best in the world, coming up with cures for long-time diseases, medicine to help people with many illnesses, and their ability to make new technology and many other things is incredible.  If the world only knew what this tiny country contributes to all of us, they would never complain about Israel again.  I read an article once about what all Israel had contributed to the world in three months and it was shocking!!!  I posted it here at the time.  Of course no Muslims paid any attention to the truth. I would post it again, but it was on my old computer. You should try to learn the truth before you criticize as you do.

The murdering of women & children in peaceful Lebanon by the sudden unprovoked unjustified  barbaric airbombing  by the stoneage evil zionists to destroy a peaceful country is the ultimate war crime. Why the world is not taking immediate action to bring the evil nazis to book immediatley!!!! NOW!!!!!! It is 21st century, we are not living in dark ages, are we? Where are the human rights gone? Where is UN? If it is disfunctional as dodo, outdated, a beast of cold war. Kick its butts out!!! Bring in a DEMOCRACY there. Take dictatorship out there. Transform it in a WORLD UNION, where the people of the world can have say. Boot the bullies & rascals out. Give the power back to the people! The real world democracy. The Lebanese to boot out worthless regime who cannot defend their country? What is the point of that government, if they connot defend the country!!! Bring in an Islamic Government so they can raise strong military so they can **** THE ZIONIST ******** BACK TO THEIR GHETTOS BACK IN EUROPE, so we can build & live in peace.

Am I understanding you correctly that you only see one solution and that is that Israel ceases to exist. That no comprise would be acceptable?

"Compromise…. Again…. Didn’t the Palestinian made enough compromises…"

I've never known of any compromises the Palestinians have made. Arab Muslims caused many wars on the Israelis, who were called the Palestinians before Israel was born. Muslims took the land from the Christians, the Christians took it back and gave a very tiny piece of land to the Jews because they are actually the ones that brought that land back to life after Muslims neglected it for many, many years. See, Muslims never want that land unless they see that someone else wants it. It looks like Muslims think they are the only ones entitled to their holy sites. That's just really selfish and mean.  It's very strange that the Palestinians never did fight Jordan for the land when it was Trans Jordan. Muslims lost this land after they stole it from the Christians.

"Ask yourself this question and answer honestly if people invades your country kill your compatriots confiscate your land expel you out of your town by terror erases villages mass killing their dwellers what would you do?
Would you tell your invaders it is OK please leave me a bit of my land just to survive and let live in peace together?"

Yes, we would.  In fact, the Mexicans are doing just that right now. The Mexicans are almost all you will see now in southern California. Muslims have a horrid reputation for doing nothing but fighting. I can remember my mother, God rest her soul, saying, "Muslims are always fighting, when they run out of people to fight, they would just fight each other."  If you want to keep your horrid reputation of fighting for years and years and years, and being the only people on this earth that are not capable of compromising, then keep fighting and keep living in misery.  But don't come here telling us how peaceful and tolerant you are when you can't even let the Israelis live in peace on a very teenie, tiny piece of land.  You have also ran almost all of the Christians out of that part of the world because of your peaceful and tolerant ways.

 "Believe me peace is justice and justice is truth. There are Palestinian refugees who still have the keys of their house in Yafa, Haifa, Beershiba …the truth is Palestine is an arab land."

Yes, and they are the only refugees throughout history that has never just gone ahead and blended in with other countries. Not Muslims, no way would they ever do something that peaceful. The Muslim refugees try to have as many babies as possible to make the situation much worse, trying to get the rest of the world to feel more sorry for them. Using human babies to fight a war is something that makes most westerner's literally sick at the thoughts of it because it's so inhuman. The Palestinian refugees have the fastest growing population in the world.

"How can the Palestinians forget let alone forgive."

Because that's what makes the world peaceful and people capable of going on, living happy their lives. To raise children to do nothing but hate and want to kill others is the worst form of child abuse I have ever heard of.

"Remember the example of Algeria I gave earlier. The Algerians who witnessed the occupation of their land in 1830 died but their grand children who were born in a colonized state fought and won the independance of their country in 1962."

That's because normal human beings with a heart and soul, sooner or later compromise and want peace; normal human beings with a heart and soul, unless satan is in their heart and soul, do not want to fight for 100 years or longer over a piece of land smaller than Maryland. If you do, you aren't normal and you have nothing but hatred and satan in your hearts. Plus, the French had a country to go to.  The Israelis have nowhere else to go and Arab Muslims have tons of land to live on.  Israel is already a country and it's going to stay a country. They have just as much of a right to live where they are living and exist where they are existing as any Arab Muslim in any other country in the world, including their own countries, and it's just wicked and very barbaric to say you will fight the Israelis until they're gone, even if it takes you a hundred years or longer...very cruel, unforgiving, hate-filled, very selfish people. Until you get the hatred and satan out of your hearts, you will always live in poverty and have no lives. Most Israelis live very happy, successful lives.

Yes, and they are the only refugees throughout history that has never just gone ahead and blended in with other countries. Not Muslims, no way would they ever do something that peaceful. The Muslim refugees try to have as many babies as possible to make the situation much worse, trying to get the rest of the world to feel more sorry for them. Using human babies to fight a war is something that makes most westerner's literally sick at the thoughts of it because it's so inhuman. The Palestinian refugees have the fastest growing population in the world. ......---------

Thats great muslims and Palestinians are the fastest growing population in the world. They have to or they would be extinct. The u.s. slaughter enough innocient muslim babys in iraq, yet you say westerners are so concerned about babys. Good thing they dont have u.s. troops in Lebanon , because the u.s. soldiers would be jumping on the dead babys corpse and trying to rape them.