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Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Aug 13, 2006 6:24 PM
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I found this link on a Quebec separatist forum. It's about the Lebanese kids that are called "terrorists" by all the Islam and Muslims hater present on this forum. Be aware that the pictures are very difficult to see... http://www.arbs2day.com/files/lebanon.htm No comment required, just see the pictures and share them with your friends in order to make sure that these crimes will never be forgotten nor forgiven.
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I hope you are glad now
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Aug 13, 2006 11:03 PM
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that you took revenge and destroyed Lebanon.
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Re: Nope, you're wrong again
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Aug 14, 2006 1:06 AM
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I think the u.s. have extracted there revenge..They supplied Israel with the rockets, tanks, planes. That killed countless thousands of civilians in Lebanon. Palestine also... Why do you think it is so terrible that an american base was bombed?? Dont you think about the countless millions the u.s. killed in places like Viet Nam, Iraq, etc. How many countries did the u.s. bomb since ww2 ? 15 or 20?? Some more than once to. You think an americans life is worth more than an Arab , muslim, Or orientals life...?? I think not.
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Re: Nope, you're wrong again
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Aug 14, 2006 6:17 AM
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"Just wait, the US hasn't exacted its revenge yet."
Oh you mean this brutality and slaughter of innocent lebanese was not enough more is to come.So you mean the UN ceasefire is just a farse,ofcourse peace can never be achieved as long as terrorist like Bush and Olmert live.
"But it is good that you finally admit that Israel has defeated Hezbollah."
Yes Israel was successful in destroying Lebanon but they were not successful in destroying Hezbullah as that was according to them their real motive,by the Grace of Allah Hezbullah the legitimate resistance group is alive and kicking.So it means ISRAEL HAS LOST THIS WAR.
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Aug 13, 2006 8:59 PM
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The Arc of "Ziono-Fascism" :: Forcing America To Pay and Die for Israel :: by Mohamed Khodr (Sunday August 13 2006)
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"How many manufactured wars were started by the “civilized west” that began with lies, propaganda, demonization, slander, and then genocide? Literally, hundreds."
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“The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion (to which few members of other civilizations were converted) but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”
-- Samuel Huntington, “The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order”
These are the worst of times for our nation, a nation allegedly governed by the consent of the people, yet surrendered its vision, liberty, intellect, and army to pursue the ends of the new world order, the order of “Ziono-Fascism” serving a higher purpose than the divine sanctity of life, America’s pursuit of worldwide friendship, and world peace. Such an order would not be possible without an American government run from within and without by men of greed, men of “Judeo-Christian” warmongers, men of arrogant uncompromising thought, men of singular purpose who take every “Ziono-Fascist” provocation to lie, deceive, demonize, and massacre any nation opposed to their tyranny; men who know the power of propaganda to spin their policies of murder into the spin of democratizing the world, spin death into a necessary sacrifice for liberty.
Who are these evil men of possessed intellect, evil hearts and blood stained hands?
“The Arabs are right when they paint America as a great Zionist conspiracy.”
-- Prof. Doughlas Rushkoff, N.Y. University “Wrestling with Zion” (Grove Press, 2003).
They are the Parrots of the powerful few “Ziono-Fascist”, who have today and for a long time in the future led this gullible naïve populace to die and pay for Israel;a nation artificially created by lies, terrorism, and ethnic cleansing; a nation that ferments provocations and hopes for more “wars with the Arabs” as Moshe Dayan said, to fulfill its agenda of a “Greater Israel”. Israel’s victory in the six day war of 1967 transformed the former “Anti-Semitic” Christian Fundamentalists into die hard supporters for Israel. For them, supporting Israel arises from their hate of the Jews as ones that must be totally exterminated (exception: 144,000 converted Jews) in the Battle of Armageddon to hasten the return of the ‘Prince of Peace”. A holocaust to save the masses; much like the Bush-Blair genocide of Iraq to save it from Saddam and the “Islamo-Fascists.”
Who are these “Ziono-Fascists”?
The Parroters of the Israel Lobby: Bush, the NeoCongress, the Media, and Christian Fundamentalists.
The inherently Zionist, dictator wanna be single minded bipolar Bush who couldn’t recall a mistake he’s made, sees no contradiction between his Pro-Life Belief and Pro-Death policies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, and the Occupied Palestinian territories.
This is a man who claims Jesus as his personal “philosopher”; while in reality his DNA’s spiritual guide and philosopher is the “Ziono-Fascist” Natan Sharansky, a human rights advocate who’s never met a Palestinian, Muslim or Christian, worthy of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Bush, the eternally confused, bares his intellectual depravity in this fashion: “I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them."
But what drives these “Ziono-Fascists” to destroy the Muslim world, a world that will not succumb to precision bombs, abandon its faith, but contains 60% of the world’s oil reserves?
Buddha had the answer: “They are inflamed by greed, incensed by hate, confused by delusion, overcome by them, and obsessed by mind.”
No one should ever underestimate what J. J. Goldberg calls “Jewish Power.”
In fact, the Jewish American Professor Yuri Slezkine’s latest book is entitled: “The Jewish Century”.
The first sentence in his book’s introduction reads:
“The Modern Age is the Jewish Age, and the Twentieth Century, in particular is the Jewish Century.”
Such power is acknowledged by Americans of all persuasions and vocations, many of them Jews, in addition to worldwide opinion. In fact, a poll found that fully 34% of Americans believe Jews have too much power in this country.
But that’s not all, such a belief is held by a great majority of Israeli Jews:
"When [Israeli public opinion survey company] Hanoch Smith asked his Israeli respondents whether the Jews of America have control of important branches of the American economy, 73 PER CENT replied in the affirmative ... In a non-Jewish society, this would have aroused suspicion of anti-Semitism, but emanating from a Jewish society, it seemed both a matter of pride and bewilderment."
-- Colin Shindler, Ploughshares into Swords. Israelis and Jews in the Shadow of the Intifada, I. B. Tauris, London, 1991, p. 94-95
George Washington warned this nation of such a “passionate attachment” to a foreign country lest that country influences, even controls America’s foreign policy to serve its interests and fight its wars. Similarly Thomas Jefferson spoke of the danger of “foreign entanglements”. Woodrow Wilson who lamented the death of the League of Nations as “breaking the world’s heart” spoke of the power of “special interests” on our government as an “invisible empire set up above the forms of democracy”.
Wilson perhaps prophetically was referring to Washington D.C.’s power broker, Israel’s AIPAC, our capitol’s foreign government, when he said: “A little group of willful men, representative of no opinion but their own, have rendered the great government of the United States helpless and contemptible.” Indeed Israel has successfully made America the world’s most contemptible nation.
Eisenhower warned America of the power of the “military industrial complex” that has rendered the Pentagon a lobbying firm for Corporations of death selling arms, weapons, and technology to the highest bidder including Apartheid Israel, Saddam Hussein, the Shah, Suharto, Somoza, Noriega, Pinochet, China, and most of dictatorial Africa. America sells close to half of the world’s weapons while fighting for “world freedom and peace.” Israel and our government’s worst enemies are true democracies and their best friends are dictators, those who are easily bribed, intimidated, or killed.
The primary weapon for the “Ziono-Fascists” is the few but all powerful corporate media that formulate, dominate, and ensure popular compliance with domestic and foreign policies that serve Israel, not America. This is possible because our culture unquestionably ingests, regurgitates, is consumed by and lives by the sounds and images of an all powerful media and entertainment indoctrination. Advertising creates the “analytic mind” that chooses a brand of toilet paper or supports wars.
They advertise, therefore I think.
Recently I was sitting in a doctor’s office with about 20 patients awaiting my appointment. The television in the room was tuned into MSNBC. The main story was Israel’s total devastation of Lebanon and Hezbollah’s retaliatory strikes. Not one single person was looking at the television set or listening to the news; all were either flipping through magazines, reading local papers, conversing, or avoiding any eye contact. The news then turned to Mel Gibson’s drunken remarks. Suddenly, their minds awakened from a bored slumber, their eyes turned to the television with the keenest of interest, and smiles filled their once morbid faces. Dying children was of no interest to this group, but celebrity news was fascinating.
Professor Michael Parenti wrote of this disconnect between Americans and their governmental foreign policies for wars of hegemony, wars for wealth, and wars for Israel when he wrote: "The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominant political mythology."
How many manufactured wars were started by the “civilized west” that began with lies, propaganda, demonization, slander, and then genocide? Literally, hundreds.
Alexis de Tocqueville encapsulated America’s intellectual laziness, propensity to unquestionably follow the media and opinion makers---those doctors of murderous spin, and the parroting corrupt politicians when he wrote: “I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America.”
Today’s “ism” is “Ziono-Fascism”, a belief that Israel can do what it must toward the oppressed Palestinians, the pro-western weak Lebanon, the “next stop….Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, the Gulf”; in essence, the entire impotent Arab Un-Leagued nations, while they must suffer what they must in “quiet”.
Israel is simply following the “Bush Doctrine” of “Pre-emption” against “Islamo-Fascists”; defined as those who oppose occupation, oppression, injustice, theft of land, resources, and wanton massacres by a “moral” army that does not kill, rape, abuse, burn, torture, starve, besiege, imprisons thousands, prevents free movement, forces pregnant women to deliver at checkpoints, abuse human rights, or disallow, food, water, life saving medicines, or baby formulas to “civilians.”
Israel gets away with murder because it has the protection of the Israel First Neo-Congress and media advocacy that grows in intensity each time Israel intensifies its killing spree against Arabs and Muslims. H.L. Mencken quipped that "freedom of the press is limited to those who own one". To Israel and America their victims are A.W.O.L.—Arabs With Out Life.
"International politics are conducted by the media in today's world. Israel must win this war."
-- Professor Amos Perlmutter
Underlying the entire history of western colonialism toward the “other” is pure RACISM.
It is the historical hallmark of “White Anglo Ziono-Fascism”, not of Islam. If Islam sought the total annihilation of Jews there would be no Jews alive today, rather, it was Islam that provided the safety, security, shelter, and opportunity to European Jews escaping the “peaceful” faith of Europe.
Today’s “Ziono-Fascists” are believers and followers of the mantra of Jules Harmand, the Indo-China French Colonialist (1910) “We belong to the superior race and civilization… The basic justification of conquest over native peoples is the conviction of our superiority - not just economic and military but also moral…That quality underlies our right to direct the rest of humanity.”
Americans are fed up and disgusted by their government’s blind and pandering support of Israel, right or wrong. They’re sick of having their hard earned dollars be quietly siphoned to a powerful rich nation while their children go hungry, homeless and uninsured. They’re furious that American weapons, delivered by Israel courtesy of their taxes, are massacring innocent civilians at will in Palestine and Iraq. Shrapnels removed from the brains of innocent children carry the sign: “Made in America”
Only Jewish life is Holy in the Holy Land, non-Jews are second class expendable citizens. A recent poll showed 60% of Israelis support ethnically cleansing Israeli Arabs, Muslims and Christians, from Israel proper. America can no longer support or arm the Apartheid racist state of Israel that has never stopped fighting, killing, annexing, ethnically cleansing, and invading Arab nations since its founding. Palestine and America are now occupied territories.
The brave people of Connecticut dumped the Jewish Senator Joe Lieberman for his support of Bush’s Iraqi killing fields; now the entire nation must dump every Congressman who puts Israel’s interest above our national interest. We must end our quagmire with Israel and in Iraq to liberate our nation from the shackles of the “Ziono-Fascists”.
“The United States should seek to allay the deep resentment against it that has resulted from the creation of Israel. In the past we had good relations with the Arab peoples…..there was mutual confidence to mutual advantage….Today the Arab peoples are afraid that the United States will back the new state of Israel in aggressive expansion….expansionist Zionism”.
-- Secretary of State John Foster Dulles while visiting Palestine in 1953. - Donald Neff, “Fifty Years of Israel” pg. 259
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by courtesy & © 2006 Mohamed Khodr
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Aug 13, 2006 9:43 PM
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Good text but I'm not sure it was really necessary to put on each and every thread of this forum...
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Aug 14, 2006 7:34 AM
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Yes, it is terrible.... The same things happened a few weeks ago to 4 u.n. observers that were bombed and killed by Israel....with the bombs that the u.s. supplied them with...Also we must remember the 106 Labanon civilian women and children that the Israels bombed as they sought refuge in a clearly marked u.n. building (compound) in 1996 in Lebanon. Bombs supplied by the u.s.
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Aug 18, 2006 12:23 AM
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Please excuse my lack of netiquette Peace/Salaam/Shalom
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Aug 14, 2006 12:26 AM
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Thanks Nancy, for reminding us all about the dangers that is facing us all everyday. I hope someday we wil be able to live in a society where no theive roaming free on the street of our neighborhoods. Thieves like Bush and his co-robbers must be kept under countrol. Both Americans and the rest of the world is paying for these theives criminal actions. That is unfortunate.
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Aug 14, 2006 12:44 AM
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This is way to funny...
My sister spoke a friend who remained in Tyre. He said that reports from the front line confirm that Israeli soldiers get very very frightened when they step on Lebanese territory. Some of the Israeli soldiers back to the Israeli side of the border as soon as they hear gunshots.
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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I believe you. A coward is a coward.
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Thanks for those pictures Nancy, it just strengthens my point that Hezbollah has every one of those people's blood on their hands.......
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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This Lebanon war has really strenghtened the Lebanon people. It is just unfortunate that so many had to die and be left homeless because of Israeli agression and the u.s. suppling Israel with the weapons. But, Hizbollah have gained a lot of support and respect from the world, including the Lebanon people. Bravo...Hizbollah. & News Agencies SIDON, Lebanon — No sooner had the UN-brokered end of hostilities came into effect in the wee hours of Monday, August 14, thousands of Lebanese civilians displaced by the savaged Israeli bombardment of the south started to flock home in droves. "I'm going to make sure my house is okay," Adel Abbas, from a village near Tyre, told Reuters. "If Israel sticks to its word and continues to stick to the ceasefire, I'll take my family back home later today." Guns fell silent in Lebanon early Monday after a UN-brokered truce went into effect to end a five-week Israeli offensive on Lebanon. A few hours later, hundreds of cars jammed a narrow road leading south from the port city of Sidon. The mood among the convoys was joyful with many of returnees giving the victory sign. "Since day one the resistance (Hizbullah) told us that it will get us back to our homes, and now it has delivered on its promise," said one jubilant woman, proudly showing the V sign. "Thank you Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah," she added in reference to the chief of the Lebanese resistance group. Up to 1,109 Lebanese civilians, a third of whom were children, have been killed since Israel launched a wide-scale offensive on July 12. The savaged Israeli bombardment, which left Lebanon's hard-won infrastructure in tatters, has displaced nearly one million civilians. National Duty Many of the displaced said their return to their homes in the devastated south was a national duty. "It does not matter whether our homes are still standing or not. We have to go back and defend our land," Leila Haidar, 29, told Agence France-Presse (AFP). "It is all part of the struggle," she said. Leila's family fled the southern village of Sir al-Gharbiyeh two days after Israel launched its crushing offensive. The mother of three now lives in a makeshift shelter in a school in the mainly Christian Beirut district of Ashrafiyeh. "I don't care if we have to live in tents, but as long as it is on our land," Haidar said while gathering the few items she and her children now own in preparation for their journey home. Like many southern Lebanese, she believes that her return is to demonstrate steadfastness in the face of Israel which robbed her of her land and tried to deter her unwavering support for Hizbullah, the only group which protects her interests. With a red scarf tightly wrapped around her head and black eyeliner defining her stare, Haidar recalls her children's screams when the Israeli bombs started falling down. "But we will go back. And if our children die, we will make some more. We are all Hizbullah's soldiers," she averred boldly. Rebuilding The UN agency for refugees has said that it would begin organizing the return of the displaced people. But many families said they will not wait. "We are not going to wait for any organization to take us back," said Hassan Abdel Karim who lives with his wife and three children in a park in the Sanayeh district of central Beirut. Squatting under a tree in the park, now a centre for the displaced, the 42 year-old is eager to go back to the flattened suburbs in the south. "I have no idea what has happened to my house. I do know that the supermarket I worked in doesn't exist anymore," he said tearing a piece of Lebanese flat bread just handed to him by the park's volunteers. His eight-year-old daughter is hiding in a blue tent he pitched in the middle of the garden's grounds as she waits for her only clothes to dry. Hassan is broke. He has no job to go back to and is unsure of how to rebuild his life. But in a conservative society where a family's privacy is near sacred, living like this, waiting for food donations in cramped conditions is simply not an option. "It is humiliating. It is degrading to live like this, in the middle of a park," he said. "I have daughters who need their privacy. "We need to go back home. We need to rebuild our lives. We need to show that we have not been crushed." The Israeli offensive has hit the southern part of the country the hardest, destroying entire villages and forcing many, who had already fled previous Israeli offensives in 1982 and 1996, to flee once more. "My family has been through this all before," said Bilal Hamed, 30, who doesn't know what has become of his home or his precious crops of olives, citrus and grapes. "If we don't have homes, we will rebuild them. If they burnt our crops, we will replant them," he said. "Hizbullah is not a party, it is a people and if Israel wants to get rid of Hizbullah, they will have to get rid of all of us." http://islamonline.net/English/News/2006-08/14/02.shtml "It is humiliating. It is degrading to live like this, in the middle of a park," one displaced said. (Reuters) Displaced Lebanese held posters of Nasrallah while retuning home to the devastated south. (Reuters)
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Once again Elaine, I guess we disagree.
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Yes we do disagree Nancy, but I'm glad that its a RESPECTFUL disagreement as is the nature of civilized conversations. Thank you.
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Hello Elaine, yes I always try to exchange views in a respectful way, otherwise it always turn very fast into two monologues and nothing positive can come from monologues. That been said, I must admit that sometimes I'm very angry and I forget that state of mind.
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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Nancy,
I try not to allow myself to get that angry because a) it serves no purpose except to let off steam and b) I know that there are actual people behind the usernames and computer screens. Therefore I would never resort to name-calling or personal attacks against anyone on this board.
I give back the same respect I am given.
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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I guess Elaine we agree one thing and it is that with a little respect everything is possible.
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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It is not beyond the realm of possibility that Hezbollah massacred innocent Lebanese. During times of extreme duress (war), there is absolutely no way to know who killed who. In a culture where suicide seems like a good idea, why not genocide to propagate one's beliefs?
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Re: Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
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It is not beyond the realm of possibility that Hezbollah massacred innocent Lebanese. During times of extreme duress (war), there is absolutely no way to know who killed who. In a culture where suicide seems like a good idea, why not genocide to propagate one's beliefs?
It is sad isn't it. During times of extreme duress, we must learn to speak in a language that does not sent the wrong message to the theives. Theives like Bush and his co-robbers in Israel must understand that their mass murders, mass kidnapping of women and children, and mass destructions can not be tolerated. Although suicide as way to contain these theives maybe bad and unfortunate, but the facts that these theives only understand the language of violence, rape, and mass murder if unfornate, we must still have to speak to them in language that these theives can understand. It is not a good idea to commit death to the theives to make sure we are able to live in a society that is free of theives and muderere like Bush and his co-robbers in Israel if that's what it takes. It is a common beliefs that theives are not allow to roam freely, kill freely, rape freely, mass destruction freely, mass human degration freely, and mass intimidation of democratic governments or those government that want to do good for his or her country instead of good for the theives who pay his or her salary.
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