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Interview: Young Muslim Cellist Blazes Musical Path

By Ali Asadullah

19/05/2002

Asadullah Ghais uses the cello to express himself

Despite its history as a classical instrument, the cello probably won’t be heard much in pop music in the near future. But that hasn’t stopped one young Muslim from taking up the instrument in an attempt to express himself musically as best he can. Gha-is Abduljaami is a 19-year-old college student at Stanford University. His music however goes well beyond his young years and as he looks to the future, he sees a career filled with musical expression. Abduljaami spoke with IslamOnline recently about the cello, his life, his outlook and his aspirations as an up-and-coming musician.

IslamOnline (IOL): In America, music is not something Muslims are well known for. We do not have icons such as Umm Kulthoum or pop stars such as Amr Diab. What's it like to be a minority within a minority [musically speaking] and what are your aspirations as a musician?

- Gha-is Abduljaami: Being a Black Muslim within the music world is very exciting for me because even though I am one of few, I feel that I can make a big impact on the lives of my audience, especially in the black portion of my audience. Because of the way that music makes it easier to accept what is heard, the messages that I have in my music are actually given thought by my audience.

If I were to stop a member of the audience and tell them to stop doing a certain un Islamic act, they might look at me funny or become offended, but if I sing the same message to the same person it has been my experience that my audience, even if they don't agree with me on the issue, will take the time to actually think about what I said. 

A few months ago I realized something that made me very happy. I realized that as a result of the acculturation of Americans I am able to plant seeds in the minds of my audience members. I have the ability to bring the truth and bring good to people while still being musical and entertaining. I have become a messenger of truth and my level of success has and Insha' Allah will continue to be high.

All of the wrong that I see I can speak against and not be seen as an enemy of my fellow Americans. Through research that I have done, I can say that this part of American culture is a result of European and African music traditions combining. The European music tradition had music as art and not necessarily something that represented the plight of the people and African music traditions had music as a part of life and a direct result of the condition of the people. The combination of these two gives you what we have today – a music tradition where the music represents the plight of the people, but at the same time can be treated as entertainment. I feel that with my music I try to be musically pleasing but still socially and culturally conscious.

As for my aspirations for my music career as a singer/songwriter/musician, Insha'allah I plan to continue with my career until I lose the ability to speak the truth and still be successful as an artist. Only Allah knows how successful I will be; but I hope that I am able to reach as many people as possible, especially the people of the Black community and the Muslim community. I want Black people and Muslims everywhere to realize that there are people in the music world that are not driven by drugs, sex, capitalism, or star idolatry, and who are fighting for right with all that they have. I, as an artist, intend to continue on until my abilities to help others with my music reaches its limit.

* What sparked your interest in music? At what age did you start playing and when did you know that music was something you wanted to make a lifelong pursuit?

- The reason that I started with music is because it came so naturally and I enjoyed making music. I started playing music when I was eight, but prior to that my mother encouraged my creative spirit and supplied me everything I needed to draw and paint. From the time I was very young, she would always say that I would be an artist and my mother did her best to allow my talents to mature and to be expressed.

The first instrument I played was a song-flute, which is just a cheap, plastic recorder. That was when I was eight and it was part of school program. I played that instrument until it broke, but my mom bought me another one for Eid-ul-Fitr when I was nine.

My next instrument was the keyboard. It only had about fifty keys, but it was well suited for a ten-year-old. This instrument was a graduation gift from my mom. I played this instrument constantly until I was introduced to the cello in junior high school. I started playing the cello when I was eleven and I actually chose the cello [over] the violin, viola, and bass because the sound and tone of cello appealed to me. I did not mind that it was big; in fact the size made it that much more appealing. I was drawn to the deep rich sound that the cello made and I fell in love with instrument.

I played in the orchestra all the way through junior high and I practiced everyday, even in the summer, and brought the cello home everyday at my dad's request or order. By the time I reached high school I realized that I wanted to learn more. So with the consent and financial support of my father I began to study the cello privately in the summer before my sophomore year.

Also in my freshman year I began to practice the guitar. I primarily studied classical guitar techniques to separate myself from the many other guitar enthusiasts at my school who just played popular rock songs and who basically had no knowledge of the guitar other than a few chords. I practiced the guitar in all of my free time while still continuing with cello. However, as a result of my increased level of cello studies my focus on the guitar slowly dwindled. I still played it in my free time and still do whenever I go home.

I also would like to mention that my mother bought me my first guitar, an electric guitar, with a built in speaker. I still have it at home along with my classical guitar that was given to me by [my] orchestra teacher in high school. I continued with private lessons and played in my high school orchestra for my freshman, sophomore, and senior years and the All-city orchestra for my junior and senior years. I continued with private lessons until my senior year when my father refused to let me take lessons any longer as a result of our not-so-good relationship.

When I came to Stanford I started taking private lessons again and I joined Talisman, an a cappella group. I took lessons all through my freshman year at Stanford and I sang with Talisman only until February of 2001 because I was unhappy with the way the group was run (creative differences, seriously).

I should mention that in all of my years as a musician, improvisation [has] played a huge role. I was able to make the music that was in my head a reality. I did not think of pursuing music for the rest of my life outside of mastering the cello because I did not feel that I could help people with it. At least not until spring quarter of my freshman year. It was at that point that my vocal music and instrumental music came together. I decided that I wanted to write songs and be involved in the music industry, but not as a performer. I did not want to be a performer because I did not want to be just another album in a music store.

My full desire to continue in the music world did not occur until I found myself in the rainforest in Barra Del Colorada, Costa Rica. It was there that I realized that I would not be just another album on the shelf if I targeted my community and not a faceless music world. It was in Costa Rica that I truly found a connection between my life and music. I began writing songs about my life and my wants and needs, things that I had been unable to say to the world before.

* Your main instrument is the cello. While it may be a popular classical instrument, most people don't associate the cello with what's new, hip and cool; especially in the pop-music driven American music scene. What brought you to the cello and does it matter to you that you don't play a so-called pop instrument?

 - As for what brought me to the cello I think I already answered that. The idea that the cello is not hip or cool is in my mind a misconception. The cello is all over popular music today from rock to rap, but because of the difficulty in learning the cello there has not been a large enough group of cellists to truly make the instrument mainstream. An instrument such as the guitar is much easier to learn and therefore much easier to love. Even though the cello is in popular music and its sound is hard not to love, I am still upset that the cello is not in the foreground. It is always used for accompaniment, but I take the cello and bring it to the front. I make it, in addition to my singing, the feature of each of my performances. I hope to encourage others to love the cello for all that it's worth; but I do not wish to see the cello made so mainstream that basic technique is abandoned.

* Define your type of music. Where does it come from, creatively speaking? And from a musicological perspective, what are the roots of your music?

- I would define my music as being blues and R&B with a dash of funk. Creatively speaking, my music is a result of my natural ability to improvise with music, whether vocally or instrumentally. The way that I sing has been influenced by Marvin Gaye, Micheal Jackson, Al Green, and various muezzins that I have heard making the Azan. In a musicological sense, my music emanates right from my spiritual connection to this world. Whatever stimulates my spirit, whether good or bad, I sing about or play about.

Basically, I write about my life and all of the forces present within in my life. With respect to the cello, since conveying a message with music that is devoid of words can be quite vague, I would say that my instrumental music is a product of my spirit channeled through my physical and my vocal music.

* Who has influenced you musically?

- Along with artists that I have already mentioned, I would have to say that Colin Miller, a guy that I jammed with in my freshman year of college, influenced me greatly. When I jammed with him, he used to really feel what he was playing and I would watch him and wish I had a connection to music like his. Then I found that connection in singing and later on with playing the cello. I figured how to make the music I sang and played mine.

* What contemporary artists are you listening to now?

- I could not list all of them because I probably could not name them off the top of my head so I will have to say that I am listening to different kinds of music right now – rock, hip-hop, techno, etc.

* In the music business, everything is marketed by genre. If you were pressed to place your music in a specific genre, what would it be?

- If I were pressed to put my music in a category I would put myself in R&B, since I sing and my music culturally speaks to the African-American population.

* You have said before that your music is personal to you and that you don't create anything that isn't "true" or based on your personal beliefs, values and understandings of the world around you. Explain that more?

- The music that I create comes straight from my spirit and is always exactly what I feel and based on my beliefs. It just depends on if it is vocal or instrumental. As I stated earlier I have to think about the vocal music because the words I say are very important, but I also come up with songs that are full of undeveloped ideas and so I don't record them.

* Since music is so personal to you, how does Islam impact what you do? Is any of you music intentionally Islamically themed, or does Islam come out in a more subtle fashion?

- Because my music is so personal and since I constantly strive to follow Islamic law and the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) my music is always in accordance with my faith mainly because my practice is regular and any music that I make has to be consistent with my regularity. I would say that all of my songs intentionally have Islamic themes because my moral paradigms are based off Islam. As for songs that praise Allah, I have only written one. Until I began to write from what I felt spiritually I combined my love of singing and my love of Allah with Dhikr. I admired the gospel choirs because they worshipped Allah the way that I wanted to, but unfortunately their idea of who God is and my idea of who God is were quite different.  

* What themes are most prominent in your music?

- The themes most prevalent in my music are a combination of the feelings I have about my life and issues that exist within the African-American community.

* You are currently working on an album that should be ready within the next year. What can we expect from that and what is your overall goal for that piece of work?

- The album that I intend to put together will be made of up songs and my spoken thoughts that I have recorded. I intend to introduce the music world to a new sound and to proclaim myself as a force to be reckoned with. I hope to bring freshness to a rather stagnant music world that just mass-produces music with no sense of originality.

* You have expressed interest in not only continuing to play music, but also to produce and work on the business end of the industry. Which part of the industry holds more interest for you and what are your long-term aspirations?

- I will have to say that being a performer appeals to me because I get to directly interact with the people who I am speaking to. I don't think that performing and producing are as chronologically separated as I may have made them seem. I want to perform and produce because in order to make the biggest impact I need to have connections inside and outside of the music world. The reason I don't produce now is because of the lack of equipment and knowledge of that equipment. As for getting involved in the business end of music, I feel that getting involved in it is important because it decides the way music on a large scale is represented. In order to be most effective I will need to also have a firm hold on money and resources. Money gives more people the incentive to do the right thing, not necessarily all though. For instance, if there were more money in the black community you might see more cellists.

* Your performance name is Serat. Explain how you arrived at that name and how your family background and personal life have shaped who you are as a Muslim and as a musician.

- My stage name is Serrat which is a derivation from the name of the Caribbean island of Montserrat. I came to this name through a desire to separate my stage life from my regular life and to accurately represent who I was as an individual.

All of my life I had struggled with who I was ethnically. Throughout my childhood I was teased about my dark skin and called "African" and "Jamaican", but not in a positive sense, but in a way that basically meant "you are not one of us even though we're all black". So those terms were used as insults and were really hurtful because they were used to ostracize me in the only community that I wanted to be involved in.

I went on to still think of myself as African-American, but did not really know what it meant to be something that I was not considered part of. When I went to junior high school I literally became separated from the black community because I was put into the predominantly white honors classes. School was the only time that I was exposed to a social setting other than my family so that played a larger role in my life than may be expected. I continued into high school in the same predominantly white honors classes and I still had this desire to have something that I truly felt a part of to call myself.

Being American meant nothing to me. There was no national religion or official culture, so being American to me was very vague and unspecific. Then when I was sixteen-years-old I realized that I was half Montserratian and I discovered an identity that explained my features and complexion and made me proud of who I was. I discovered a specific culture to identify with. African-American culture was too broad to me and very dependent on the area of the country that a person lived in. As a result of all the discoveries that I made then [as well as] last summer in Costa Rica, I adopted the name Serrat. Also the name Serrat works really well on stage because of the rhythmic potential that arises when Serrat is spelled out. S - E - double R -A -T, who's that? It's that Kat Serrat.

* When it's all said and done, what is the musical legacy you would like to leave?

- Isha'allah, I would like to use my role as a performer, as a producer, and as a business man in the music world, to influence as many people as possible and to bring as much good to the world as possible even if I don't benefit with material wealth. I intend to work in this fashion until I die. I once told my younger brother that I wanted to take a chunk out of the world before I died. I guess the chunk that I intend to take out is the evil portion.

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