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American and Arab Youth Share Ideas
Is Iraq Better Off Now?
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In an e-mail-based dialogue, sponsored by IslamOnline.net’s Muslim Affairs section, American student Evan Hays and Iraqi-Palestinian student Khalid Jarrar reignite the debate on the morality and necessity of the Iraq war and occupation. Below are some of the comments we received from our readers.

What do you think of this dialogue? Which argument do you support? E-mail us your comments: mideast@islamonline.net.*


People need legitimate representation in order to be considered democratic. Iraq doesn't have legitimate representation.


The Iraqi people are voting for democracy, but are not voting in a democracy.


When democracy was established in the United State, those representing the colonies were legitimate because they fought for the independence of the United States from England. They fought on the same side for the same purpose. They all had an idea of what they wanted the republic to reflect, although they didn't all agree. Furthermore, the representatives were of the people. They weren't in a green zone hidden away from the people.

The Iraqi people have not fought for their freedom; its being handed to them by the wrong people. They haven't really agreed what the republic will reflect. There are candidates running for ideas, not for the people, and not for law. The people haven't had the opportunity to voice their concerns to those running for parliament. The Iraqi people are voting for democracy, but are not voting in a democracy, because they are not being allowed to fully participate in the decision-making process. 

Instead of having one dictator, they will now have a few dozen.

Rashad Abdul Hakim

New Haven, CT, United States

Jan 4, 2006


I totally support Khalid. Whatever Saddam did to his people for the last thirty years the Americans have done the same in just under three years. And besides, there is much more violence in Iraq right now. I just don’t get it, how could some people support a war that was based on total lies. I don’t see any difference between the terrorists, Saddam Hussein or any criminal minded person. They are all in the same boat. After all, birds of the same feather flock together. HOW TRUE!

Frances Cassim
Dec 30, 2005


Assalamu Aleikum,


I think that Iraq and the Iraqis are worse-off in everything.


I write to thank the leadership of your organization for the enlightenment to Muslims all over the world.

In respect to the issue of Iraq after the war America senselessly fought, I think the hypocrites in Iraq should have only themselves to blame. I think that Iraq and the Iraqis are worse-off in everything. The only kind advice is for them to return to Allah and jointly agree to do Jihad.

Mikhail Ibrahim
Nigeria
Dec 30, 2005


Come to Tennessee and try to behead our children and see what happens to you. You want to kill American women and children? Tennessee Militia is ready and waiting on you! I'm very sorry for your hatred for innocent people who have done nothing to you, but you have made your intentions clear. I would like to do likewise!

Armed American Christians
Dec 30, 2005



I can't imagine what kind of terrorism the next generation of Americans will bring to the world.


Evan lost the debate in the 4th round when he referred to Khalid as 3rd person, instead of "you".

Evan's views are an echo of the American media. This American youth doesn't have any idea what is going on in Iraq. Strangely, instead of opening his eyes to first hand info from Khalid, he insisted on believing what the rest of the world have abhorred listening to. This is purely an amazing example of people refusing to be open to truth other than the one they subscribe to.

I can tell that deep inside Evan is embarrassed of the terrorism in Iraq brought by his government. However, in the name of patriotism, he is supports the war.

If he is a typical American, I can't imagine what kind of terrorism the next generation of Americans will bring to the world.

Labu
Dec 30, 2005


Assalamu Aleikum,

This is a very good debate. Yes, although the war is illegal by our standards and maybe immoral, one has to admit that the only way to remove Saddam was the intervention of another government that is looking out for its own interests. Let's face it, no Muslim country had the courage to do it because the fear it had of Saddam out-weighed the fear that it should have had of Allah, which gave the US the back bone to remove Saddam from power.

Allah says if it weren't for him setting one people against another surely corruption would have been pervasive throughout the lands.

Muslim countries should have done this along time ago!

Rashad Abdul-Hakim
New Haven, CT , USA
Dec 26, 2005



It is a soldier's duty to fight and die for his country.


Iraq would be better off if the "resistance," i.e. terrorists, would stop killing innocent people. The fact that al-Quaeda was not in Iraq before the war is irrelevant today because it is there now. Terrorist activities such as kidnapping will only prolong the bloodshed and violence in Iraq. Americans would rather face such atrocities in another country than relive September 11, 2001. It is a soldier's duty to fight and die for his country. It is the right of every citizen to enjoy life, freedom and happiness. The citizens in Iraq are robbed of these basic human rights and the thief is this "resistance".  This is just one American's opinion.

Bob Hoffman
Dec 23, 2005


Thanks so much for this informative exchange of ideas.
I find Khalid's beliefs and arguments much more persuasive than Evan's.  
I think the war in Iraq is illegal and immoral -- and a terrible, terrible mistake that will have far-reaching negative implications for the people of Iraq, the Middle East, the US, and the world at large for many decades to come.

Bill C.
New Orleans

Dec 21, 2005


Assalamu Aleikum,

Dear IOL’s editors,

I couldn’t hide my amazement at IOL for making this dialogue go public. I think this is a very good effort in trying to join two different people, from two different positions, into a dialogue that has enlightened me and most of the readers. I’m sure that this dialogue has made people, especially Muslims from other parts of the world, understand the current realities in Iraq and choose which side to stand by after analyzing views from both sides.


I truly can’t hide my surprise to see how blind Americans can be to the people of the country they invaded.


For me, Evan resembles a typical American, who holds "rigid" views of supporting his government, no matter how realistic and relevant Khalid’s points were. He tried to understand, but not with sincerity. He sounded biased every time he answered Khalid’s post.

I would like to congratulate Khalid for standing up to speak the truth on behalf of the Iraqis and the Muslims. I truly can’t hide my surprise to see how blind Americans can be to the people of the country they invaded. It’s now clear to me that the US expects people to see only the "good side" of the occupation while they are obviously robbing the country. The US will not go to war unless there are some profits guaranteed. Khalid gave a very good analogy to explain the "expected benefits" of war on Iraq. Philosophizing wars and saying that they bring benefits is totally unacceptable! You presented your points very well, Khalid :)

I’m not trying to be pro-Khalid just because I’m a Muslim. But the points he laid were much more convincing, realistic and logical if compared to the points used by Evan.

I enjoyed the dialogue. May Allah bless us all and give us a better understanding of what is actually happening in Iraq.

Nur Fatiha Kamarzaman,
4th Year Medical Student,
Clayton, Australia.
Dec 21, 2005


Peace to you,

It is a great job to bring opposite sides for fruitful discussion. It started out as fun to me but I couldn't quit till I read to the last word. I thought it was too long too read but it turned out to be too short.

Khalid Jarar hasn't only exposed reality but was also very rational in his arguments. He was replying point by point while his partner's approach was a bit vague, and it echoed what the world got tired of. I hope you keep up this job as it might help to reveal the truth that most of the media failed to forward.

I say Peace to you again.

Ine Ante
Dec 20, 2005


Occupation is wrong. If we Americans were going to "protect" the world, we would bring a lot of destruction. What if another country decided to eliminate our president? Wouldn't we be in the streets with guns? The God I serve is on the side of innocent people. America is a great country, but we need to stop trying to change everybody else. Evan reminds me of a preacher, he talks but doesn't make sense. 


The God I serve is on the side of innocent people.


We need to let the people of Iraq decide their own government and give help only when the masses ask for it. Many things are done in the name of God, but God said on Judgment day people will tell Him of the things they did in His name and He will say "Depart from me ye workers of iniquities I never knew you!" 

Evan, I think you are sincere, but please re-read your points and those of Khalid. You need to be more open-minded. We are all brothers and we dream, hope, love and bleed the same. Khalid sounds like a very open-minded person. I wish I could meet him for coffee sometime and hear the real truth about Iraq! 

Khalid, keep your faith in your God, He will deliver the Iraqi people. I pray for peace in your land!

Thomas Billheimer
Dec 16, 2005


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