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American and Arab Youth Share Ideas
Is Iraq Better Off Now?
(Part Four)
This
is the second entry in the series American and Arab Youth Share
Ideas. In an e-mail-based dialogue, sponsored by
IslamOnline.net’s Muslim Affairs section, American student
Evan Hays and Iraqi-Palestinian student Khalid Jarrar reignite
the debate on the morality and necessity of the Iraq war and
occupation, expressing their opinions as to whether democracy is
taking root in the country.
What
do you think of this dialogue? Which argument do you support?
E-mail us your feedback and comments: mideast@islamonline.net
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December
7, 2005
Dear
Khalid,
For
this letter, I have chosen to address directly the issue of the
“resistance,” as I feel as if this is a key point which cannot be
glossed over. As we conclude the dialogue in the next few letters, I
may address more specific issues, but I must address Khalid’s
sentiment that the “resistance” is justified as they are fighting
“the occupation.” This sounds fine as a simple sentiment of the
oppressed fighting the oppressor, but let us truly consider some of
the fallacies of this idea and some of its implications. Essentially,
what does it really mean to be in favor of the “resistance”?
| Based on my
study of Islam, friends who are Muslims, and time spent in
Muslim countries, I conclude that international Islamic
terrorism is destroying the faith. |
Who
does your “resistance” represent? Perhaps first it is better to
define who it does not represent. According to an article published
recently by the AP
about the upcoming OIC conference in Saudi Arabia, the government of
Iraq is firmly against the “resistance.” Iraqi President Jalal
Talabani said his delegation would ask the conference to condemn the
violence in Iraq. “This is not resistance. It is terrorism, and
should be condemned,” he told the Associated Press. Iraqi Foreign
Minister Hoshyar Zebari echoed that sentiment. "We want the
summit to come out with a crystal clear support of the political
process and a condemnation of terrorism," he said. The insurgency
“is a crime against all Iraqis, it should be condemned as strongly
as possible.”
I
know, Khalid, that you do not like the Iraqi government and feel that
they are just puppets, but I believe this is just another case of what
makes our debate extremely difficult as it is an accurate
representation of your inability to be open to any possibilities of
truth other than your own. The turnout for the votes was indeed quite
remarkable and will be even more so in the next elections where more
Sunnis will vote; and if you are unwilling to accept government
elected by the Iraqi people, then we are truly far, far apart in our
discussion, perhaps so far that our discussion is only two voices
shouting at each other but only reaching a wall rather than an ear of
receptiveness. In fact, I fear that this is probably the best way to
sum up our discussion so far.
It
certainly does not represent the Kurds in Iraq, despite the fact that
most of the Kurds are Sunni Muslims. Neither does the “resistance”
represent the Shiites; just ask any of the thousands of mothers who
have had their sons killed and kidnapped by the “resistance.” The
resistance also does not represent the Christians in Iraq—just ask
those at St. George’s Church in Baghdad (a church led by an
acquaintance of mine, Canon Andrew White, who is known and loved by
most who know politics and current affairs in the Middle East. I also
obtained much of my knowledge about Iraqi feelings about the war from
Canon Andrew, who has been in Iraq for much of his adult life), where
they have had all of their lay leadership kidnapped and killed, and
who are still strongly in support of the American troops and the war.
So after this brief survey, it is clear that the “resistance” does
not represent Iraq, except for a minority of Sunni Iraqis who are
doing two things: attempting to hold onto a power that they once had
under the dictator Saddam Hussein, and acting on a sick ideology that
praises any fighting or killing of Americans.
| The
“resistance” is losing cause to instill fear, impose a new
domination, set up a world order ruled by fanaticism, and an
abomination to Islam. |
I
do not want the readers to become mixed up in the rhetoric of hate
that the “resistance” spits out and become blind to the
facts—Iraqis don’t want the resistance just as they don’t want
Americans there any longer than they have to be.
How
do you think Jordanians feel right now about the “resistance”? If
thousands of people (both Arab and Muslim) parading through the
streets against your beloved “resistance” don’t teach you
anything, then it is certain that no words of mine will. So as we can
see, the “resistance” also doesn’t represent the Jordanian
people, neighbors of Iraq, who have now felt the sting of its
terrorism in their capital. While international opinion is not always
in support of the war, it is certainly not in support of terrorism,
which has now been felt in so many countries around the world, so the
“resistance” also does not represent the international community.
Judging by the opinions expressed in the article mentioned above, as
well as common sense about Muslims around the world, the
“resistance” does not represent the opinion of the majority of
Muslim governments and people around the world. Let us be clear about
what this “resistance” really is: a vain and losing cause to
instill fear, impose a new domination, set up a world order ruled by
fanaticism, and quite plainly, an abomination to Islam.
I
am truly sorry to have to say this, and perhaps by saying this I will
alienate you, Khalid, as well as many readers, but based on my study
of Islam, friends who are Muslims, and time spent in Muslim countries,
I conclude that international Islamic terrorism is destroying the
faith. It has dominated headlines now for 4 years or more and has
certainly not spread the faith in a healthy fashion, as the Sufi
mystics of history did in places like central Africa and Indonesia.
Now I certainly know, based on the love that I have for so many Muslim
friends and the love they have for me, that this is not what Islam is
about—but it continues. I am also not trying to say that colonialism
and globalization were not partial and indeed significant causes of
the rise of such ideologies as Wahhabism and the thought of Said Qutb,
but what I am saying is this: The strategy is utterly failing to bring
about the reform and spread of Dar al-Islam that was originally the
purpose.
My
suggestion for this debate is essentially this: Khalid’s ideas about
the “resistance” have indeed been well represented by Khalid, but
they must be recognized for what they are—the opinion of a minority
of Iraqis—especially those who were not severely repressed by Saddam
Hussein.
To
conclude, I do indeed think it is a shame that in Khalid’s words
this must be “a debate” where we bring our grievances, so to
speak, to the table. How are we as Americans and Iraqis truly going to
heal and reconcile if not through open dialogue with the goal of
friendship despite political differences? There is certainly a time
and place for debate, but I question whether this is it.
I
also am disappointed and shocked that Khalid takes such a stand on the
“resistance,” as this is implicitly saying that he is in favor of
the terrorism that continues to kill far more people over the last
year than the military battles have for quite some time. If Khalid is
truly in favor of such warfare, then two can certainly play at that
game. I believe that I could just as easily ask Khalid the same
questions about the basis and reasoning for fighting in regards to
Al-Zarqawi and the like as he has for the United States. So in the
end, does might make right? Who says who has the right to fight? In
this life, it seems that we all must decide based on our faith,
beliefs, etc., and right now I am comfortable with a war that has and
will bring better conditions to all Iraqis not just to the obvious
majorities and minorities that were oppressed under Saddam Hussein.
(Canon Andew White’s church has grown remarkably despite the danger
as an example of institutions repressed previously by the Hussein
government that are now flourishing.)
No
doubt, the war has often been mishandled, leading to a prolonged
insurgency, and as a result many innocent Iraqis have been martyred
for the causes of freedom and justice that Islam certainly espouses as
they have died under the hands of the “resistance.” At this point
I am not asking the readers to even support American military actions,
but I am asking the readers to at least see this resistance for what
it is, and finally to get involved for peace if they really do want to
change things. Join the Red Crescent or the Arab League or various
Muslim human rights organizations and go to Iraq—the more hands that
there are working for peace, the sooner American soldiers will leave,
but more importantly, the sooner the destructive ideology of the
“resistance” will be defeated.
*****
December
14, 2005
Dear
Evan,
I
want to tell you a joke! :)
This
actually happened to me. I was talking to one of my neighbors, he is
few years younger than me, and his name is Hassan.
One
day Hassan asked me how old my brother Raed was.
I
said, “1978.” (This is the common way to answer a question about
one’s age in Iraq, by birth year)
He
looked uncomfortable and said, “No, I think he is 1977!”
Hahaha!!!
And
I replied insisting, “No, 1978.”
And
he wouldn’t believe me!
Haha!
I
had mixed feelings, I wanted to laugh so hard, but I was so frustrated
that I wanted to punch his nose at the same time, haha!
I
am kind of having the same feelings that I had that day, many years
ago, with you now, Evan. Not that I want to punch you on the nose,
haha, but that I can’t believe that you are don’t believe what I
said about the feelings of Iraqis towards this or that!
But
as the Godfather said before, “I am a civilized person.” So I am
going to try to convince you more of what I think.
You
are quoting AP [the Associated Press], Jalal Talabani, and Zibari
about the feelings of regular Iraqis! If you can’t see the irony in
that (obviously you don’t), then I will explain it to you.
Jalal
Talabani, who has the best relations with Israel and the US in the
region, wouldn’t say anything that is not totally supporting of and
approved by the US.
AP?
I am giving you first-hand information, and you are quoting foreigners
who are quoting Jalal Talabani.
| The
resistance is the force of the oppressed against this
oppressor. |
I
appreciate what you said when you described what Zibari did. He
“echoed” the speech of others and this is actually what Talabani
does himself. This is the extent of authority he has. He echoes
whatever the White House says and is not even allowed to change the
words or terms.
Kurds
are mostly Sunni Muslims, but unfortunately due to their corrupt
leadership, they have been taught that the Arabs hate them, and that
every Arab is waiting out there to kill as many Kurds as possible
(although I swear that throughout my whole life in Iraq, I don’t
remember meeting one single soul among the Arabs who hates the
Kurds, just for being Kurds). And the Kurdish leaders convinced the
Kurds that every Arab is Saddam Hussein, exactly like your
administration is trying to tell Americans and the world that every
anti-occupation supporter is pro-Saddam, and just like what
they—and, sadly, you—try to tell the world that every
pro-resistance supporter is pro-terrorism. All of this, with all due
respect, is mere lies. Therefore, Kurds count themselves as
simply Kurdish, and their loyalty to their ethnic group is higher than
that to their religious belonging, while their leaders are secular. So
you can hardly count the Kurdish political stand as being a stand of
Sunni Arabs.
Kurds
have been completely separated from the rest of Iraq after receiving
their independence years before the war. There are actually borders
between Kurdistan and the rest of Iraq. Iraqis weren’t allowed to go
into the Kurdish areas. Kurds had their own government, flag,
language, satellite stations, mobile phones (access to the rest of the
world), and also a much higher per capita income than the rest of
Iraq.
I
am trying to say is that they have been disconnected from the rest of
Iraq, and there was never a war in their region. All these factors led
to the fact that they are not screaming with support for the
resistance, simply because they are not concerned with the whole
issue. Their leaders are against the resistance because they are very
pro-occupation and the new constitution also supports their ability to
make use of oil and other natural resources in their area. Still,
Kurds that live in Baghdad (I am talking about those in Baghdad in
particular because they are the ones I have met and lived with) and
know that Arabs aren’t evil creatures who feed on Kurds, are
actually pro-resistance.
The
corrupted Kurdish leaders worked very hard for many years to plant the
strong Kurdish identity in the heads of Kurds because it is in
their—the leaders—best interest. They tell them, “You are Kurds,
and not anything else but Kurds, and we happen to be Kurdish leaders!
We are the ones who should lead you, not the Iraqi government, which
is made up of Arabs. We are Kurds, we take care of each other, away
from those Arabs.” They feed them ideologies and then they receive
the legitimacy of being and continuing to be leaders.
| The
resistance never killed an American for being an American. Was
any single American soul killed by the Iraqi resistance before
the war? |
This
very same concept also applies to the corrupt Shiite leaders, who have
no qualifications to lead whatsoever, except for the fact that they
are Shiite! And then it’s in their best interest to further widen
the gap between the Shiite and Sunni, and to have the Shiite firmly
hold on to their Shiiteness, rather than Islam or Iraqiness. This
simply gives them a role, and a chance to be leaders! Do you know that
just by being in the positions they are in, they get 20 percent of the
total income of every Shiite in the country? Yes, sir, 20 percent! And
only God—and the grand ayatollahs—knows where that money goes. The
new constitution gives them the right to get their own country now in
the south, a pro-Iran province, which means that they are able to
control the oil as well, besides the 20 percent tax that they collect
from people, so why resist the occupation? It’s in their best
interest to support it. And then they formed the new government,
supported by Iran, and formed the police and National Guard to protect
the presence of the occupation, which insures their interests in
the constitution that the occupation wrote up. So do you expect these
people to support the resistance?
On
the other hand, the regular Shiite in the street, a lot of them who
support the resistance, like those who are Sadrists, support the
resistance (who alone number in the millions) and also the followers
of other leaders beside Sadr such as the followers of Sistani. A lot
of them support the resistance as long as it only attacks Americans
and the other occupations forces.
You
expect the Iraqi president to support the resistance? Or do you expect
the Saudi king to support it? Don’t you remember that he allows
American bases on Saudi lands? So much for democracy. How many Saudis
do you think love having American bases in their country? Did you say
none? I thought so! But there are still bases there, aren’t there? I
would call that undemocratic, wouldn’t you? I think you should call
for your government to go and liberate Saudi Arabia! Oh wait, they
wouldn’t, they are good friends.
You
expect the Saudi king not to condemn resistance?
In
Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and practically every other country in the Arab
and Muslim world, the majority of people support the resistance, and
the majority of people condemn terrorism.
Many
sides have tried to associate Islam with terrorism, but still Islam is
the fastest growing religion on earth, so I guess we don’t have to
fear much for the reputation of Islam at the moment.
You
have no idea—as a matter of fact, no one does—about the numbers of
Arabs who came to Iraq to fight during the war. They didn’t come to
defend Saddam Hussein, but to defend Iraq. They were killed in the
streets and people buried them under the pavement or on the side of
streets without names. All that is left is just a piece of paper
saying “An Arab martyr is buried here,“ or “An Arab mujahid
is buried here.” No one could bury them properly, just like what
happened to the rest of the Iraqi corpses, because it was too
dangerous to go anywhere. My neighbor was killed—by the American
army— when driving on a highway. He had many sons and daughters, and
they couldn’t get his body out of his car except after many days due
to the dangerous situation. He was shot, just like thousands of other
Iraqis, just for being in the street at the wrong time, a time when an
American soldier was feeling uncomfortable or insecure. A lot of
the Arabs left their lives to come and participate in the resistance.
Here, I just wanted to try and clarify the issue of the Arabs’
support of the resistance.
People
in Jordan who went out to march in the demonstrations were condemning
terrorism, which kills innocent people. If we want to apply this to
the case of Iraq, terrorism is what is and will continue to be
undertaken by the occupation. Even the presence of the terrorists and
their operations and the continuity of their presence in Iraq, is the
occupation. The blood of Iraqis, that was shed by terrorists, stains
the Americans’ hands as much as it stains the terrorists’ hands.
But the Americans have managed to get a few extra thousands of liters
of Iraqi blood from those whom they killed, either during military
operations, by bombing their houses, and by using cluster bombs, white
phosphorus, bullets, and practically every other weapon ever invented,
except for nuclear weapons. Some of the bullets are covered with DU
[depleted uranium] to give them higher penetration abilities. In this
war, America and the other occupation forces are practically the
ugliest form of terrorism ever seen.
The
resistance is the force of the oppressed against this oppressor. The
resistance couldn’t possibly have started or continued, if it
wasn’t for the funding and protection of Iraqi people. Imagine four
people in a car, carrying their weapons and waiting for an American
convoy to pass so they can attack it. How many Iraqis see them? How
many Iraqis can report them anonymously? How many Iraqis can attack
them? But none of that happens! People protect them, and cheer for
them when they perform their operations. They help the attackers in
their escape after they are done. Some people even divide their
income between their families and the resistance, some people work
half-time to provide for their families and dedicate the rest of their
day to working with the resistance. It is a public grassroots
movement, and the official numbers and report show that it’s
increasing and getting smarter and stronger. These are facts that AP
can’t report because they don’t know about them, and Talabani
won’t talk about them because he doesn’t like them.
The
political process has not been any less shameful. It was designed and
carried out in a way that supports every pro-American and
pro-occupation party. It eliminates the rest of Iraqi people. How
could a thug like Allawi be a part of the political process? The
magical answer: because he is not only a pro-American, but also
represents the US. How did the corrupted Iraqi government get into
power? The government of torture, the government that drills holes in
people’s bodies in prisons, the government of financial corruption,
how did they get in power? The magical answer: because they are
pro-occupation!
Sistani,
hoping to create his Shiite-Iranian empire, and to increase his
income, has ordered the Shiite to vote for the Shiite list in the last
elections. And the Shiite are not allowed to question what their
mullahs say. Now that the size of the mess this government has created
is coming up to the surface, Sistani has decided that he isn’t going
to support any of the lists in these elections! After all of this, the
government has established a firm foot in the army and police, and
built a government based on sectarian racism.
| In Jordan,
Syria, Egypt, in every Arab and Muslim country, the majority
of people support the resistance, and the majority of people
condemn terrorism. |
The
US army helped, though, in exposing the last two scandals of Jadiriyya
and Nosour Square. People knew about them months ago, but now right
before the elections—conveniently—they exposed them to the
international community and to all Iraqis. They used pictures to show
people how bad the Shiite government is. At the same time, guess
who came out on the surface condemning torture? Allawi! Haha! The same
one who was called the butcher of Falluja! the same one responsible
for the death of thousands of innocent Iraqis! the same one who was
the direct reason for the Sunni boycott of the first
elections—because of the government attack on Sunni cities back
then, including Falluja! and who at the same time did not let the rest
of the Sunnis vote for being too busy trying not to die in other Sunni
cities! Allawi—who managed to evaporate a few billions of Iraq’s
money during his time as a PM, and I am saying “evaporate”
because somehow nobody was able to find them. Allawi—who represents
in the eyes of Iraqis the new Saddam Hussein. That same Allawi is
now being polished and painted to be reproduced as the man of peace
and human rights.
So,
ladies and gentlemen, after the US coalition with Shiites against
Sunnis since the war started, till the Sunnis lost enough lives to
have them pull back out of the whole political process, and after
giving the Shiites the chance to make a government and then show
people how bad it was right before the elections—like they didn’t
know before—we come to one conclusion: Dear Iraqis, Sunnis are
terrorists, and Shiites are torturing freaks; the best for you is to
elect a secular person like, for example, Allawi!
Who,
just as a small, simple, unimportant side-note, happens to be
pro-occupation and will make sure the occupation will never leave as
long as he is in power.
What
was that saying about permanent friends and permanent interests?!!
It’s
all one big dirty game. The first and last and only one to benefit out
of it is the occupation itself.
The
whole elections process is controlled and run by the Iraqi government
and the occupation forces. What kind of results do we expect to get?
An
Allawi will win, no matter what. Just wait a little bit and see when
the results come out: I mean by that any person who represents the
interests of USA rather than those of the Iraqis.
The
constitution divides Iraq. Federalism is a dividing tool. In every
other place, federalism is used to unite separated states. In Iraq it
means, according to the constitution, dividing Iraq and giving the
provinces higher authority than the federal government, the right to
have their own official language, their own police and army, and their
own constitution, too. That’s all in the new constitution.
The
occupation and all of its followers, and all of the Allawis, will
never leave while they are being asked nicely; they will leave when
they are forced to.
The
resistance never killed an American for being an American. Was any
single American soul killed by the Iraqi resistance before the
war? Of course not! The American administration is putting the
American fathers and sons in the front in Iraq, as an occupying force,
to insure its own interests at the expense of the lives of Americans,
who are being killed because they are wearing military uniforms and
coming from across the map to be in and occupy our country. They are
not being killed for being American or because we hate your way of
life. They are being killed as a reaction to their actions, which are
far worse than anything the resistance did to them yet. The occupation
is spreading the poison of hate by killing more people and by
continuing to stay in Iraq.
In
the end I want to ask you few questions:
1.
Why doesn’t the American administration set a timetable of pulling
out of Iraq, and then embarrassing the resistance by ruining its
goals? The resistance will continue to fight till the last man, till
the occupation leaves. Why doesn’t the US administration set a
timetable to leave Iraq—let’s say in one year? And then the
resistance will find itself obligated to stop, and get in the
government to be part of the police and army to build strong enough
forces to control the country before the end of the year.
My
answer: Because they don’t want to
leave ever, and even if they are going to pull out some of the forces,
they are leaving a number of military bases. I want your reply for
this, please, for each of the following points: Why not set a
schedule? And also I want an answer about the fixed military bases: Is
that a sign of sovereignty of the future Iraq? Would you accept fixed
permanent foreign bases in your country? Isn’t this long lasting
occupation? I am going to nag you till you answer them all!
2.
I heard you talking over and over about the innocent Iraqis who were
killed by the terrorists (well, according to your definition of
terrorists, not mine). My question is: Do you support the killing of
Iraqis by the American Army? Over 100,000 Iraqis have been killed.
Cluster bombs and white phosphorus were used against civilians. Yes,
civilians in civilian areas, as you know that kind of weapon doesn’t
discriminate. It’s practically a weapon of mass destruction so to
speak, in the sense that it’s designed to kill as many people as
possible in an area. Well, you might say that some of the resistance
were among those civilians that were killed. Do you support killing
these numbers of innocent civilians just because maybe
they work with the resistance? If the situation were the opposite and
your country were occupied and the occupiers killed civilians,
including your family members, by using white phosphorus—which means
that they practically burned to death—just because some of the
resistance happened to be in the neighbor, what would you think?
(Sorry if I sound rude; I need to let you understand that I am not
talking about theories. Those people who burned to ashes were families
of other people you know.)
If
you take your time and find the courage to answer ALL these question
honestly, I think then we would have moved forward in our
“debate.”
Thank
you.
Khalid
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