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American and Arab Youth Share Ideas
US-Promoted Reform: Genuineness or Rhetoric?*
(Part Three)

Sept. 22, 2005 

 - Introduction
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Part One
 - Part Two
 - Part Three
 - Part Four

In the context of IslamOnline.net’s coverage of the issue of the US role in Middle East reform, we sponsored an e-mail-based dialogue between American university student Benjamin B. Brandenburg and Egyptian university student Mona Akil El-Kouedi.

September 3

Dear Mona el-Kouedi,

Thank you for your sincere compassion for the victims of the Katrina disaster. It is a solemn reminder that all humans, even Americans, are subject to the laws of nature and in need of the comforts of a higher power.

Your last e-mail brought up the most difficult issue about America’s mission to spread democracy. We both agree that they are heavily involved in the region and that they are attempting to spread democracy, but we differ over America’s intentions. We both realize that America’s latest moves in the region are not “only for democracy” and the mission to create individual liberty and freedom for the Arab peoples, but we differ over US intentions. In other words, we differ over the level of sincerity in US rhetoric about democracy.

You hold the standard Middle Eastern viewpoint that America’s intentions are to increase its hegemony, empire, superpower—call it what you may—and not to act for the benefit of the Middle East; but why would the US invade Iraq in exchange for a loss in world prestige and financial cost? 

America is a supporter of Israel, but Israel has been a friend of the US and democracy.

You claim that the US acted unilaterally in Iraq with “the support of nobody at all,” but you have discounted Britain, Australia, much of Europe, and many other willing partners. You claim that, had the United States been in it for noble intentions, the world would have backed its efforts. Take a moment to consider the noble intentions that France and Germany had in striking down multilateralism—namely a loss of US prestige in the world, a rise in their national opinion polls, continual cover-up of illegal business contacts, and the “noble” UN sanctions scandal. Which noble intentions do you prefer? As far as I can tell, most Europeans believe that Arab countries don’t even have the capability to create a liberal democracy. America may be naïve, but it is not bigoted.

In your view, Iraq proves that the United States speaks “empty rhetoric” about Arab democracy because, according to both Bush and Kerry, the war in Iraq was for the security of Israel, not the Arab peoples. Sure, America is too heavy-handed as a supporter of Israel, but Israel has been a friend of the US and of democracy. (Palestinian refugees can turn on Satellite TV and watch Arab-Israeli politicians denounce the government in front of the world in a fashion that has never been seen in the modern Arab countries.) I am not a supporter of the current government in Israel, but at least they can evacuate the Gaza strip without resorting to violence.

I believe the Israeli-US argument is usually used as a front for Arab peoples and governments to deflect criticism from themselves. I understand that many Americans (including myself) say that we have to solve the Israeli-Palestinian crisis to build trust. But can Palestinians renounce violence and accept Israel’s right to exist, not merely de facto, but also morally?

The 100,0000 civilian deaths and the Abu Ghraib scandal you site illustrate your point about the farce of Iraq and democracy. My heart goes out to the victims. But your October 2004 NYT civilian death estimate has been proved a farce (See 100,000 Dead—or 8,000). And can anyone in the world honestly admit that prisoners in Abu Ghraib have been treated worse than they used to be? Despite the dishonorable actions by American soldiers and some government theorists, Abu Ghraib is no longer a concentration camp with brutal torture and deadly murders occurring daily. No one from Amnesty International or the Arab Street could dispute that fact.

You claim that the US introduced a distorted version of democracy that the autocratic rulers benefited from. This is a very serious charge. Please give me examples instead of mere claims! And please be careful if you use Iraq as an example, for the last time I checked, all ethnic groups (including the Sunnis) were struggling to put together their constitution that included Shari`ah (Islamic law) as the basis for all law.

I only have room to give a rebuttal of your claims and I did not go into a defense of America’s actions and intention, so let me close by quoting Winston Churchill: “Democracy is the worst form of government on this earth, except that it is better than all other forms.” The point is that democracy is imperfect (as the United States adequately proves) but it is still better than autocracy. 

America’s intention is to spread democracy in the Middle East. Its intention is also to create a Palestinian State, save Israel, destroy terrorism, and end autocratic regimes however slowly. Just because they also have intentions for the latter does not discount their intention to create a form of democracy that is defined by the Arab peoples.

With all due respect and honor,

Salam Aleikum,

Benjamin Brandenburg

*****

September 13

Dear Ben,

I really apologize for my very late reply. I was just stuffed with a new activity that we are founding in Egypt. It’s a model Organization of the Islamic Conference. I’ll also be traveling in a couple of hours to the UK and then to France.

Anyway, I had some comments on your last e-mail. I will try to be as concise as I can. I will also follow the sequence of ideas in your e-mail.

I think you raised a really important question of why the United States would invade Iraq in exchange for a loss in world prestige and financial cost. It would be amazing if you can provide an answer, bearing in mind that the United States is a rational international actor, isn’t it?

Your words about the participation of Britain, Australia, etc. reminds me of the Fahrenheit 9/11 movie. Really, what are the numbers of troops participating in the war from these countries?

You talked about the ignoble intentions of France and Germany, for instance. Thanks for the very true description of their intentions—undermining the US power, rising in national opinion polls, and so on. That’s in addition to the United Nations’ ignoble intentions. I agree with you, but tell me why should the United States be considered an exception? You perfectly illustrate the French and German intentions in Iraq, but you deny the same intentions for the United States. Here is a good question: Is the US an angel?

I still believe that the statement of Bush and Kerry about the war in Iraq being important for the security of Israel is very relevant and dangerous. I am not debating the level of democracy that Israel has; I am rather talking about the connection between the security of Israel, the war in Iraq, the US, and the balance of power in the region.

I am not talking about democracy here; I’m talking about politics.

More importantly, this statement reflects some of the US INTENTIONS that are, quite clearly, not noble. They said it bluntly: The war in Iraq is important for Israel. It is not for the Arabs. It is not for democracy. Do you need a clearer statement to illustrate the US empty rhetoric about democracy?

You said that the US-Israeli argument is used by the Arab people to avoid criticism. Please don’t take the Arab-Israeli conflict as something minor that is not worth mentioning. No, dear. Israel is a real problem in the region. Don’t you think that the same thing is happening with the American government? They are using democracy as a front to deflect criticism, or to avoid talking about the issue in general, so as to make it a second- or even last-ranked issue (I am only using the notion of the American government, and not the American people, because I can judge the administration by their actions, but I can’t judge the people and I can’t generalize on them, because I don’t know them all—although you generalized and used both the Arab people and governments interchangeably).

You asked if the Palestinians can renounce violence and accept Israel. Let me ask you: By the same token, can Israelis renounce violence and stop killing civilians, women, children (like Mohamed El-Dorra)? Can Israel accept the existence of a Palestinian state? This is to show you that the situation is not that easy, and that it is not a one-sided process; you have to look at it from different dimensions. Please don’t neglect the Palestinian side.

Oh, I’m sorry if my number of civilians deaths is not accurate. You tell me the number. It is not 100,0000? OK, tell me, is it 99,9999? Or is it only 8,000? Remember that these records are of 2004; now we are at the end of 2005, so don’t forget to add the 888 who died in Al-Aaimmah bridge in Iraq.

If the Iraq deaths were only 8,000, would this make a big difference? 

Tell me, also, if the deaths were only 8,000, would this make a very, very big difference? Aren’t those 8,000 innocent? Aren’t they civilians? Aren’t they civilians? Didn’t they die because of the war on Iraq?

You also claimed that the prisoners of Abu Ghraib haven’t been treated worse than they used to be. I really couldn’t imagine that you wrote such a statement. Your words mean that what happened in Abu Ghraib isn’t a big deal. The Arabs are used to this. They aren’t Americans. They aren’t Europeans. They are just Arabs who are used to such treatment. They must accept what happened as long as they accepted it before. Do you think that this is an acceptable logic to accept what happened?

I’m sorry, dear Ben, but I may consider this as a racist statement. It really hurt me.

Finally, regarding the example of Iraq, once more, after the latest debates about the constitution, do you think that it reflects the Arab Islamic nature of Iraq?

I really tried to make this e-mail concise, but it seems that I failed. I would end my e-mail with the same question that I raised before, and which I believe is very important and relevant to our debate: What are the conditions for humanitarian intervention? When does a country like the US has a right to invade another country like Iraq under the pretext of humanitarian intervention and spreading democracy?

That’s all for now. Thanks, Ben, for your kind e-mail. Regarding the Egyptian election, we may discuss it later. I may not e-mail you very frequently from September 13 through 25 because I will be in the UK then France.

Keep in touch.

Best wishes.

Yours truly,

Mona


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