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U.S. Says Anti-war France, Germany Not Needed for Iraq Coalition

"The president believes that NATO is changing, that the European Union is changing, that Europe is, indeed, changing," said Fleischer

WASHINGTON, January 23 (IslamOnline & News Agencies) – Facing unwavering German and French opposition to a U.S.-led war on Iraq, the White House said Thursday, January 23, the two heavyweight European allies are not need to disarm Iraq.

The White House claimed that most European nations will in disarming Iraq by force even if Germany and France "stay on the sidelines", Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported.

U.S. President George W. Bush "will still assemble a rather robust coalition of the willing, if it gets to that point," said spokesman Ari Fleischer.

"There may be a few good friends who stay on the sidelines. There will be many more good friends who heed the call if it comes down to it."

Dismissing Germany's steadfast refusal to take part in any campaign to disarm Iraq by force and France's reluctance to okay war, Fleischer said each nation would have to make up its own mind.

Bush "respects the rights of different nations to come to differing conclusions," said Fleischer.

"I can't explicitly from this podium say to you, here's who's committing this number of divisions of this or that nature," he added.

"My point to you, though, is dig beyond Germany and France to find out what the real story of European governments is, because there's a deeper story here."

Bush "has no question or doubt in his mind that if it comes to the use of military force and nations exercise their prerogative not to be involved, the United States and the coalition assembled will still be overwhelmingly militarily successful, if those nations choose not to participate," he said.

"The president believes that NATO is changing, that the European Union is changing, that Europe is, indeed, changing," said Fleischer.

The spokesman also reiterated Washington's determination to abide by that U.N. Security Council resolution, which calls for consultations if Iraq is found not to be complying.

"It's terribly important to totally dismiss" talk of unilateral U.S. action, said Fleischer.

Speaking With One Voice

Schroeder and Chirac said they would do all they could to prevent a war in Iraq

This came after Germany and France reiterated Thursday their opposition to a war on Iraq with Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder telling 500 students that they are against "legitimizing war" on Baghdad.

"I have said that for Germany we cannot approve legitimizing war" against Iraq in any future vote on military action at the U.N. Security Council, Schroeder said.

Schroeder's new statements on Iraq are the clearest indication yet of how Germany might vote if a new resolution on military action were put to the Security Council, which Berlin will chair from February 1.

"It's our common policy," added French President Jacques Chirac, in a good humored exchange as the two leaders were grilled by the "youth parliament" on foreign policy.

Later, in talks with German President Johannes Rau, Chirac said that when Europe was struggling to find a united voice "it's the voice of the Germans and the French, speaking together, which expresses a certain European conscience."

He said Paris and Berlin want "to promote reason and the rule of law. To find, right to the end, a peaceful and negotiated solution to conflicts, which is always preferable to the use of force and its disastrous consequences."

Marking the 40th anniversary of the 1963 Elysee Treaty on post-war reconciliation, Chirac and Schroeder joined hands in opposing the U.S. threats of waging war on Iraq.

The two leaders reaffirmed ongoing efforts to build an E.U. anti-war consensus on the issue.

Both Germany and France insist that January 27 status report on inspections to the U.N. Security Council should only be an interim report rather than a possible trigger for war.

Most of the 15 E.U. states insist that a second U.N. resolution would be needed before they could support any use of force against Iraq.

A German government spokesman said on Wednesday, January 22, that Germany would only vote against a war or abstain.

On Tuesday, January 21, Schroeder said his government would not support a U.N. resolution for war against Iraq while the French foreign minister said he intended to mobilize the E.U. against an early military strike.

Rumsfeld's "Old Europe" Remark Draws Fire

"We have a Europe that is looking to the future," de Villepin stressed

In a related development, U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld incurred the wrath of French and German officials after describing the two countries as being part of an "old Europe".

Leading the angry line, French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin, hit back at Rumsfeld's, asserting that France and Germany were not backward, rather, they were future-oriented and calling on all sides to "respect each other."

"We have a Europe that is looking to the future," he said.

French Finance Minister Francis Mer said he was "profoundly vexed" by Rumsfeld's remarks.

"I want to remind all of us that this 'old Europe' is spring-heeled and can bounce back. We'll prove it in the course of time," AFP quoted him as saying.

Extreme-right French politician Jean-Marie Le Pen said Thursday that any war against Iraq would be "the first big crime against humanity of the 21st century" and urged France to veto U.N. authorization of a military operation.

The United States and Britain, he told journalists, "have carried out an overt air war on Iraq for 10 years and have already, by the blockade, brought death by famine and misery to more than a million children."

Le Pen, who lost in presidential elections to Jacques Chirac last year, also described Rumsfeld's remark as "Yankee sour grapes".

The United States, he said, "wouldn't exist if it wasn't for what he calls 'old Europe'."

For his part head of a German parliamentary foreign affairs committee Volker Ruehe said Rumsfeld "is not a diplomat" and his remarks were "not clever."

Defending Rumsfeld's remarks Fleischer said: "That's a chronological description that is chronologically accurate."

On Wednesday, January 22, Rumsfeld lashed out at the two E.U. heavyweights for their opposition to a military offensive against Baghdad.

"You're thinking of Europe as Germany and France. I don't. I think that's old Europe.

"Germany has been a problem and France has been a problem," Rumsfeld told reporters.

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